•  Reef   ( @reef@lemmy.ca ) OP
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    4014 days ago

    Louis-Dreyfus’ interview with Kara Swisher followed her profile in The New York Times from earlier this month in which she made headlines for saying it’s a “red flag” when comedians complain about political correctness. While she never mentioned her “Seinfeld” co-star Jerry Seinfeld by name, her interview was published soon after he went viral for blaming the “extreme left and P.C. culture” for killing TV comedy because “people [are now] worrying so much about offending other people.”

    “To have an antenna about sensitivities is not a bad thing,” Louis-Dreyfus told The Times. “It doesn’t mean that all comedy goes out the window as a result. When I hear people starting to complain about political correctness — and I understand why people might push back on it — but to me that’s a red flag, because it sometimes means something else.”

  • Conan O’Brien had an interview I think with Taylor Tomlinson where they talked about this topic.

    Their conclusion was that comics that complain about it being harder to do comedy are just lazy.

    It’s always been hard. Even if it’s true that there are less topics that you can touch, it means that you have to dig deeper in the well you can. It’s your job as a comic to do that hard work, not the audience’s job to laugh at your shit joke.

    Conan has been doing comedy his whole life and talks about jokes that do great one night and jokes that bomb the next. Comics need to learn to read the room and adjust their jokes accordingly.

    • I agree but I do sympathize with one part of it. Things that were widely considered funny a few years ago are not today. I do think it’s unfair to hold people in the past to the standards of today, but people love digging up old footage and bludgeoning people with it.

      If a comic makes a joke and it bombs, maybe it’s not funny. Maybe they used it with the wrong audience. Reading the culture and the room and choosing wisely is part of the job, like you say. But if it bombs 5 years later on Twitter, maybe it should have just been left in the past with the context it belonged in and not dug up and resurrected for clicks.

  • Comedians who find it hard to strike home with “offensive” jokes should try the opposite approach for once, those whose jokes center around economic struggles and making fun of terrible people seem to be doing just fine.

  • If Anthony Jeselnik can still go out there and make the jokes he does, then its not that people are not laughing at your offensive joke, they just not laughing at your shit joke.

    Its just a skill issue.

  •  blindsight   ( @blindsight@beehaw.org ) 
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    13 days ago

    I’m listening to the podcast episode now. It’s only ~22 minutes (skipping the ads); well worth a listen. It’s mostly about Julia Louis-Dreyfus’ podcast Wiser Than Me, where she interviews women over 70 and her movie about death.