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Kraiden ( @Kraiden@kbin.run ) 85•11 days agoGreece re-introduces the 6 day work week… It used to be the standard. Y’know, in the 18th fucking century
NigelFrobisher ( @NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ) 54•11 days agoMan, if I still lived in an EU country and the government pulled this shit I’d be making the most of that sweet freedom-of-movement. Way to drive all the skills out of your economy.
acargitz ( @theacharnian@lemmy.ca ) 19•11 days agoThat’s exactly what tens if not hundreds of thousands of young Greeks have done in the last 15 years.
Greece has a brain drain problem. This ridiculous measure is actually sold by the government as an attempt to address the shortage of certain skilled worker categories. By … incentivizing the few that are left to pack up and leave. In practice, it’s just class warfare.
The Greek ruling class is a bunch of grifters, landlords, smugglers and gangsters (always have been, since 1830) and they are basically betting on a “recovery” based on cheap labour.
GBU_28 ( @GBU_28@lemm.ee ) English7•11 days agoLegitimate question: aren’t there barriers / hurdles to permanent residency still?
Geth ( @Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 12•11 days agoThe barriers are your skills and language. Other than that, no.
Edit: some people move without permanent residency anyway. It has its’ drawbacks.
GBU_28 ( @GBU_28@lemm.ee ) English4•11 days agoGot it, that’s all I meant. I thought there were requirements, it’s not just “pack our bags, we’re moving to Germany tomorrow”
Bob ( @MadBob@feddit.nl ) 3•11 days agoThat’s almost how I migrated, except I had to give a month’s notice at work and I’d already found an address to register at.
Diurnambule ( @Diurnambule@jlai.lu ) 1•11 days agoIf you have a child it is more complicated than that. You need starting money to be able to move.
Geth ( @Geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 4•11 days agoIf you had a job that could sustain you and you get a new job within EU that can also sustain you, it’s about as expensive as you would expect a long distance move to be. There’s no system in place as far as I know to block you from getting permanent residency in another EU country because you don’t have starting money. That’s just your inherent responsability to figure out like with any move.
fmstrat ( @fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com ) English6•11 days agoA good example of how this is not the case is the UK and Dentists. When Brexit hit and they left the EU (picture if the right in the US had their immigration way), a ton of immigrant Dentists had to leave. It was easy to stay before because of the EU. Now there is a huge shortage of dentists. Surprise surprise.
benhum ( @benhum@feddit.uk ) English48•11 days agoGreek employers cannot find the staff they need. Greek coastguard pushes migrants off boats into the sea.
Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) 7•11 days agoThose migrants aren’t staying in Greece, they want to go somewhere with an actual economy
benhum ( @benhum@feddit.uk ) English4•11 days agoIf that were the case, why would the Greek coastguard give a shit?
Revan343 ( @Revan343@lemmy.ca ) 5•11 days agoMaybe the cruelty is the point?
Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) 2•11 days agoThey can cause issues while transiting through and they are required to give a shit because they’re part of the EU’s outer border control. And they might have fears of some of the migrants staying. I could imagine someone being in the coastguard cares about securing the border too even if there were none of the above issues.
acargitz ( @theacharnian@lemmy.ca ) 2•11 days agoBecause of European asylum rules. Those migrants have to be processed in their country of entry.
Also, because they are racist fucks, who are paid to believe that Greece is being invaded.
Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) 1•10 days agoI mean, from their POV, it absolutely would feel like it
Jojo, Lady of the West ( @Silentiea@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 3•11 days agoBut they’ll take all of our incredibly desirable jobs!
Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) 1•10 days agoI don’t know if it’s a good thing that all undesirable and underpaid jobs are taken or given to a class of people who are deemed cheap or undesirable
PowerCrazy ( @PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) English1•10 days agoThis is a false dichotomy. Employers can’t find the staff they need at the wages they are willing to pay. Immigrants are the scapegoat, not the solution.
Kusimulkku ( @Kusimulkku@lemm.ee ) 1•10 days agoFor employers it can also be a solution, since you can pay them whatever and trust that they can’t go to the authorities about it or won’t join unions and so on
PowerCrazy ( @PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml ) English1•10 days agoThat’s the point. Obviously having an ever expanding underclass that can be exploited with no risk is preferable to paying workers more.
halfeatenpotato ( @halfeatenpotato@lonestarlemmy.mooo.com ) 42•11 days agoNoo that’s the wrong direction
Tire ( @Tire@lemmy.ml ) 18•11 days agoCapitalism 📈 (the line is both profit and human suffering)
paris ( @paris@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 4•10 days agoThe thing is in this case, it’s only human suffering. People don’t actually work nonstop all week. Giving them fewer hours over four days means they’re more productive for those days because they’re not dragging out their work to fill the arbitrary 40 hours they have to work for. So companies pay workers the same, but can save money in amenities and office space or whatever by using it less AND have more productive workers. Longer work weeks don’t actually make companies more money (oversimplifying and speaking broadly).
Chemical Wonka ( @chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de ) English13•11 days agoneoliberalism in its essence
mayooooo ( @MayonnaiseArch@beehaw.org ) 12•11 days agoThat’s how you fuck up. Greece already had insane working hours, that doesn’t seem to be the problem.
tearsintherain ( @tearsintherain@leminal.space ) 8•10 days agoGreece had been effed since the austerity economics were placed on them due to the great big financial crisis where boys were declared to be too big to fail. Remember only regular working people are allowed to fail.
onlooker ( @onlooker@lemmy.ml ) 5•10 days agoGreek Brain Drain incoming.
Dieguito 🦝 ( @DieguiTux8623@feddit.it ) 4•11 days agoAt least they are legally employing people, in other countries in Southern Europe people work an illegal amount of time but as long as the official contract declares a lower amount of hours it’s fine (neither retirements funds nor taxes nor insurance are paid for the extra time, obviously).
rumschlumpel ( @rumschlumpel@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 19•11 days agoImplying Greece doesn’t also do this.
Dieguito 🦝 ( @DieguiTux8623@feddit.it ) 3•11 days agoOur PIGS brothers ❤️❤️❤️
fchum ( @fchum@lemm.ee ) 1•11 days agoIt’s like they’re describing Greece… Though things may be looking better as time goes along in regards to some of this.
sunzu ( @sunzu@kbin.run ) 4•11 days agoPure profit
This is the best summary I could come up with:
After 15 years of recession and austerity and three rescue packages that came with tough conditions attached, labor in Greece is no longer strictly regulated.
Collective agreements have been frozen for years, and in many businesses, staff work on the basis of individual employment contracts.
Making sure that the authorities can do such monitoring tasks effectively is not a priority for the conservative government of Prime Minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis.
Kazakos is in favor of collective wage agreements, which are, however, being increasingly limited by legislation passed by the ruling conservative New Democracy (ND) government.
The official reason for the introduction of the six-day work week is that there is a shortage of skilled workers on the Greek labor market.
The new Greek regulation on the six-day work week and the reduction in arbitration proceedings that comes with it are turning back the clock, Kazakos told DW.
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