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KDE ( kde@floss.social )  to KDE@lemmy.kde.social · 2 years ago

Phone Link is Microsoft's late and closed source alternative to KDE Connect. It requires you sign in to a Microsoft Account for it to work.

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Phone Link is Microsoft's late and closed source alternative to KDE Connect. It requires you sign in to a Microsoft Account for it to work.

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KDE ( kde@floss.social )  to KDE@lemmy.kde.social · 2 years ago
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Phone Link is Microsoft’s late and closed source alternative to KDE Connect. It requires you sign in to a Microsoft Account for it to work.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/phone-link-requirements-and-setup-cd2a1ee7-75a7-66a6-9d4e-bf22e735f9e3

This means all the transactions between your phone and your PC are monitored and sucked up by Microsoft.

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  • mox ( mox@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    KDE Connect also runs on more operating systems. It’s worth mentioning to friends who run Windows.

    • jbk ( jbk@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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      You can even connect e.g. Android devices with each other! No PC/laptop needed!

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        This feature is epic. Being able to save a file to my phone from my tablet or vice versa is fantastic.

      • iturnedintoanewt ( iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee ) 
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    • Railcar8095 ( Railcar8095@lemm.ee ) 
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      Is there a port for M Macs? I’m missing it so much now that I don’t have Linux on the laptop.

      • Refurbished Refurbisher ( refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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        What’s preventing you from installing Asahi Linux?

  • AVincentInSpace ( AVincentInSpace@pawb.social ) 
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    Interesting that they bothered to make this considering KDE Connect already works on Windows

    • iturnedintoanewt ( iturnedintoanewt@lemm.ee ) 
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    • Unruffled [they/them] ( Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      The only unique (I think?) thing about phone link is that it enables you to use your Android phone camera as a webcam, which can be handy if you don’t have a quality webcam. I think its only in the beta version though.

      • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) 
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        Audio and video sharing would be really handy. I wonder if KDE connect might do this at some point

      • Russ ( russjr08@bitforged.space ) 
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        I’m not sure if this is a Pixel feature or if its available across all of Android, but there is an option when you connect over USB to connect your phone as a webcam - but that is of course tethered instead of being wireless.

        • Unruffled [they/them] ( Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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          With phone link I have tested the beta version and you can use your phone camera wirelessly after initial setup. At least I was able to do this using a Redmi Note 9s without any obvious issues, apart from the privacy concerns noted elsewhere.

  • Lightfire228 ( Lightfire228@pawb.social ) 
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    I wonder if KDE connect could leverage the way Syncthing does device discovery and pairing

    It works across networks, with no configuration

  • istanbullu ( istanbullu@lemmy.ml ) 
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    KDE Connect is an amazing app

    • refalo ( refalo@programming.dev ) 
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      when it works. but it’s so incredibly buggy, especially the desktop apps, and double especially the sms desktop app. holy shite is it terrible, and trying to get support is like trying to report a problem to google

      • MystikIncarnate ( MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ) 
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        All I’m going to say to this is…

        You people still use SMS?

        I’ve explicitly told people not to send me text messages. The protocols are old and shit compared to other instant messengers. I’m on Google chat, telegram, signal, discord, slack, teams… Find another app to talk to me with. I generally don’t care which one, but I actively refuse to sign up for or into any Facebook/meta/Zuckerberg properties. If you use something I don’t that isn’t owned by the zuck, I’ll probably sign up so we can keep touch, but for the love of God, not SMS.

        Look, SMS was great when phones didn’t have internet on them. It was a quick and easy way to send updates and chat while away from your cable/DSL/dialup (whatever you had at the time). Now that data is the primary use for a mobile phone plan, just use a more robust IM app.

        I also have about six or seven phone numbers, which I give out to different groups of people for different reasons, plus a phone number on my mobile which nearly nobody knows. All my other lines (all VoIP lines) ring my cellphone number. Texting from my VoIP line is not fun, but it does work. Multimedia messages generally get lost and RCS is just encouraging the use of something that should have been killed off.

        I’m partial to Telegram and signal since they mainly operate by phone numbers, but I can make “voice” and video calls over data rather than having to use my cellphone directly; which allows me to call from my computer, laptop, phone, tablet… Literally any device that can run the program. So if my phone is lost/damaged/stolen/whatever (unavailable for any reason), I can still send messages to you and call if needed.

        If everything is tied to your cellphone number, and that number becomes unavailable for any reason, well… Get fucked I guess. Your SIM stops working, your phone dies/breaks/gets stolen, your provider decides to fuck your account up or charge you a fortune for no good reason and cuts you off, your provider has a major malfunction and stops servicing clients in your area… Literally anything goes wrong with the one system you use and all your SMS bullshit goes away. Stop. Using. SMS.

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          besides many banks requiring SMS 2FA still, I usually only talk with non-app-using people over e2ee RCS

          • MystikIncarnate ( MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ) 
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            The banks are borderline criminally negligent because they exclusively use SMS for 2FA.

            Simply, it is insufficient.

            I get that they want the SMS information on file, and that’s understandable, but give people another option at least, Holy hell. It gives my inner IT secops brain an aneurysm.

        • Matthieu ( matthieu@mastodon.puffer.fish ) 
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          @MystikIncarnate @refalo Shouldn’t RCS be a better (ah-through already outdated to begin with) standard to use ? With major phone constructors making it available ?

          • MystikIncarnate ( MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ) 
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            It’s improvement.

            But you can also polish a turd, and that’s also improvement. It’s still a turd. Taking 1990’s tech and overlaying rich text services onto it, is just polish for the same 90’s tech that should have been left behind.

            IMO, it’s still worlds away from what you can get with a purely digital instant messaging system.

            Also, it seems idiotic to me that nearly all of your communications can go up in smoke by accidentally dropping your phone into a wood chipper, and you’ll be SOL until you replace it because everything is hairpinned through your cellphones SMS capability. Battery dead? Out of your providers service area? Ha ha, get fucked.

            Just dumb.

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    • MystikIncarnate ( MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ) 
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      I’ll just leave this here:

      https://kdeconnect.kde.org/

    • csolisr ( csolisr@hub.azkware.net ) 
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      @kde @ulfi About the only thing missing from KDE Connect so far is support for file and screen sharing between Android and Windows. But that’s mostly a software issue.

  • Tejas :mastodon: 🇮🇳 ( Tejas@floss.social ) 
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    @kde
    #kdeconnect is really awesome. The only negative point is that it won’t allow you to send multiple files simultaneously. We have to send each file separately. If possible, please provide it soon.
    @kde@lemmy.kde.social

    • SloppilyFloss (they/them) ( SloppilyFloss@lemmy.ml ) 
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      KDE Connect mounts your phone as a network folder in Dolphin. You could copy multiple files and paste them into a folder in your phone through Dolpin as a workaround.

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  • Lojcs ( Lojcs@lemm.ee ) 
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    This is not new. Has been there for a while

    • Norah (pup/it/she) ( princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      It’s been there for years, I think at least since before 11 was released…

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    • smoothbrain coldtakes ( canis_majoris@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Number one reason right here.

      I have gotten Your Phone to work maybe a half a dozen times. KDE Connect just works, full stop.

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        I have had nothing but problems with kde connect for years

  • `Da Elf ( elfin@mstdn.social ) 
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    @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social Which, funny enough, is Precisely Why I run KDE Connect.

    Also, I don’t let my androids fraternize with Windows machines, I’d have to boil them all later because, ew.

  • Natan 🏴‍☠️🌈🐧 ( natan_krea@masto.es ) 
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    @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social

    KDE connect es ya un buque insignia de la conectividad para los amantes del #softwarelibre y si no es por KDE ni sabríamos que Gates ha sacado una nueva basura al mercado.

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    @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social
    Kde connect is awesome!

    • Matthieu ( matthieu@mastodon.puffer.fish ) 
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      @Norodix @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social it really is awesome! I use it daily. The last time was during a presentation at school , using my phone as a kind of remote for presentations is awesome

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    Based.

    And yes, KDE Connect ftw

  • vlagged ( b100dian@mastodon.social ) 
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    @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social
    Wasn’t MS “Your phone” available for 5+ years? I mean, I know KDE connect is since 10+ years, but how is this news? Change of naming?

    • *The* Paul Brown ( Bro666@social.tchncs.de ) 
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      @b100dian @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social

      Here’s the thing: firstly, There are people who don’t know things you do. if you already knew about this, this post is not for you. It’s for the people who were not aware of the dangers of using Microsoft’s alternative.

      Secondly: KDE is not a news agency. Their main mission is to inform, sometimes of stuff that is old, but persevering in time, and often their posts will not cover the headlines of the day. But that doesn’t matter, because they are not a news agency.

  • jozefch ( jozefch@mastodonczech.cz ) 
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    @kde@floss.social @kde@lemmy.kde.social looks like they just want all our data… never enough!

    Windows is turning into another spyware

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