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Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) M to Free Software@lemmy.zipEnglish · 2 years ago

Ladybird - a brand new browser engine that isn't Google or Mozilla

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Ladybird - a brand new browser engine that isn't Google or Mozilla

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Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) M to Free Software@lemmy.zipEnglish · 2 years ago
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  • NuXCOM_90Percent ( NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ) 
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    I mean… considering that firefox is still kind of a clusterfuck for a surprising number of websites…

    I am glad this exists but I see no practical use for it for… anyone. And the cynic in me thinks this will be even more ammunition for “just use chromium, it actually works” akin to the crowd who insist on telling every single person who is considering trying out linux to use arch or gentoo.

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      … Is it?

      I genuinely haven’t encountered anything broken using it, short of Youtube. And that’s less Firefox and more all the extensions trying to make it usable, I think. There are a couple of bits of functionality missing, but in terms of sites working, it seems perfectly fine.

      • OpenPassageways ( OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip ) 
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        I’ve also encountered a few issues with Firefox on mobile, but not enough to stop using it as my daily driver.

        I don’t really blame Firefox though, I’d guess that their implementation is closer to the spec than Chrome’s but that companies are cheaping out on testing in multiple browsers.

      • Psychadelligoat ( gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        Sonys website breaks for me

        Square enix bitches every fucking time

        Some other niche sites I use also break in weird and violent ways sometimes

        All tested with all add-ons disabled to see if that fixed them, all failed

        Lol, downvote me all you want you fucking weridos, doesn’t change the facts

        • MudMan ( MudMan@fedia.io ) 
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          Huh. I’ve used Sony’s site recently and I just opened it to see if I noticed anything broken but it seems fine. Of course somebody not seeing a bug doesn’t mean the bug doesn’t exist, it’s not that I don’t believe you. All I’m saying is I’ve been primarily on Firefox for a while now and that hasn’t been my experience.

      • 0ops ( 0ops@lemm.ee ) 
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        The search function of the Walmart site was broken for a year or two on mobile but it seems it’s been fixed. A few webpages I needed for school explicitly weren’t supported in non-chromium browers.

    • Chozo ( Chozo@fedia.io ) 
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      This was my thought, as well. It also reminds me a bit of this classic xkcd.

    • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) OP
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      I think either this will die soon or more likely it will be noticed my companies that have been screwed by Google. Google has made lots of unpopular choices with Chromium and I wouldn’t be surprised if at least a few companies started funding it in hopes that it might be viable in 5 years. It took a long time to create Chromium.

      • aleats ( aleats@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        If they aren’t funding Mozilla, which is a far more significant company with a long history of browser development, the chances they’re gonna fund a brand-new browser that very few people have even heard about is next to none.

        • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) OP
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          They aren’t funding Mozilla as Mozilla is built on egg shells

          • NuXCOM_90Percent ( NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ) 
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            While mozilla/firefox is indeed a giant mess of legacy code: Why would a company instead support a hobbyist project with almost zero resources?

            At that point we are in the mythical “What if the small business of the world united and made their own product” territory

            • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) OP
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              It doesn’t have zero resources. It has at least 1.2 million dollars

              • NuXCOM_90Percent ( NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip ) 
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                It is not exclusively Firefox but Mozilla corp has 750 staff and 593 million in revenue according to Wikipedia.

                One million is maybe ten part time developers for a year.

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    Removed by mod

    • chumbalumber ( chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      yikes

  • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) OP
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    I do wish this was under the GPLv3 but you can’t have it all

    • OpenPassageways ( OpenPassageways@lemmy.zip ) 
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      I’m normally in the camp that copyleft prevents enterprise adoption, and therefore limits users/contributors… but in this case I agree. I’d like browsers to be copyleft. I’d like to be able to see what kind of sketchy shit Edge and Chrome are throwing on top of Chromium and have it out in the open.

      Question for the free software community…

      If I used a headless version of a copyleft browser as part of an automated testing suite for proprietary enterprise software, does that violate the copyleft license?

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    @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip Pretty cool, but what about Servo? Why not work on it instead?

  • Blaze (he/him) ( Blaze@lemmy.zip ) 
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    Randomly stumbled upon this community, pretty cool!

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    First Servo, now this. Good times ahead.

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    This is great. Can’t wait to use it.

    • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) OP
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      Don’t get to excited as it is very new and will take a lot of time and money to stay alive.

      Very cool though

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