How dare I polish and remove kludges from previous releases. 😆

Also, none of those kludges would have even been necessary if the project scope was properly defined from the start and the project manager didn’t let the users keep trickling in new requirements without also extending the deadline.

So yeah, how dare I go back and implement something the way it should have been done the first time?

  • Nate ( alphapuggle@programming.dev ) English
    44·
    2 年前

    I still can’t do half the stuff in the windows settings app that I could in the control panel, and every update removes an option in control panel without an adequate replacement.

    Inb4 “use Linux” I DO but Nvidia and Wayland is still BORKED (even with v555) and when I’m done with work I just want to load up a game and not have to fuck with drivers and never actually play. Sue me.

    • Admiral Patrick ( ptz@dubvee.org ) OPEnglish
      20·
      2 年前

      I’m 100% linux, even on my work PC, but I will spare you the evangelism. lol

      It’s pretty safe to look at Microsoft as a shining beacon of what not to do when it comes to (re) design. I’m not an Apple fan, but I do respect that OSX has basically just had incremental / evolutional UI changes since it was first released. Any major differences (AFAIK, anyway) were slowly and progressively implemented over several versions.

      • Ethan ( firelizzard@programming.dev ) English
        9·
        2 年前

        I was an Apple fan for most of my life. And then Jobs died. The man was a huge asshole by all accounts but he sure knew how to design. Since then Apple has become just another tech giant making average products driven by business majors.

        • aaaaace ( aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English
          5·
          2 年前

          Jobs was our asshole. New version of OS X would have issues and they’d fix stuff through point releases and things I noticed, he also noticed.

          I’m not convinced that Cook knows how to use a computer. And he certainly didn’t know how to deal with Ive, which boils down to knowing software vs hardware.

        • Ethan ( firelizzard@programming.dev ) English
          4·
          2 年前

          I have no issue with their drivers working with their cards. I have issues using a proprietary, out of tree driver that taints my kernel and forces me to jump through hoops to get it to work whenever I recompile my kernel, which happens maybe once a month when Gentoo’s kernel source package is updated.

          Also I use Wayland (because that’s what KDE defaults to).

      • Prinz Kasper ( PrinzKasper@feddit.org ) English
        4·
        2 年前

        About a year ago I tried switching to Linux and used Linux Mint exclusively for about a month and a half.

        I have multiple monitors with different refresh rates, one 144hz and a 60hz monitor. The problem is that the compositor runs at the lower of the two, for both monitors. In theory it should be possible for a full screen app like a game to bypass the compositor completely, but I could never get that to actually work, games running in both exclusive full screen and borderless were kneecapped to 60hz video output because I had the audacity to have a secondary monitor connected. But even if that did work correctly, regular desktop use would still be kneecapped. Admittedly not as important, but still annoying. I ended up having to use a hacky config tweak to force the compositor to run at 144hz, which worked but also caused tearing on my secondary monitor.

        On top of that, X11 straight up does not support VRR / G-sync if you have more than one monitor. And HDR? Completely unsupported.

  • OOFshoot ( OofShoot@beehaw.org ) 
    29·
    2 年前

    In all my life I’ve only experienced one UI overhaul that I considered an improvement, and even then there were a few specific features that were a step backwards, even by proper design standards (the same action did two different things in only slightly different scenarios.)

    Buuiuuuut I know half the time it’s just because I’m used to the old way, only the other half is it some corporate bullshit trying to push a feature no one asked for.

    • Admiral Patrick ( ptz@dubvee.org ) OPEnglish
      11·
      2 年前

      Yeah, I get that completely. Which is why I rarely, if ever, overhaul the whole interface.

      Pretty much every change is a refinement rather than a complete redesign. In this case, the complaint was because I moved a button that was just kind of tacked-on last minute in a previous release into the action menu where it should have gone to start with. lol

  • Redkey ( Redkey@programming.dev ) 
    22·
    2 年前

    Yeah, I’m sure that almost all of us have felt this way at one time or another. But the thing is, every team behind every moronic, bone-headed interface “update” that you’ve ever hated also sees themselves in the programmer’s position in this meme.

    • Admiral Patrick ( ptz@dubvee.org ) OPEnglish
      6·
      2 年前

      Oh for sure.

      The meme is just a very exaggerated tale of moving a tacked-on, added-at-the-absolute-last second button from the previous release into the action menu where it should have gone originally. It’s an in-house application, and the people that complained are also the type that will bold an entire page because “it’s important”. lol

  • Blackmist ( Blackmist@feddit.uk ) English
    13·
    2 年前

    Yeah, what you have to remember is that most users are pretty dumb. They don’t know how the software works, just where the buttons are to do the thing they want to do. They don’t read anything or learn anything other than what is needed for some menial task, and that they’re only employed because the company they work for is too small for it to be automated.

    If your stuff is free then do what you want, but the second you start charging money for stuff, you have to be acutely aware that the change that makes sense and makes everything neater and cleaner is going to make some 65 year old in an office freak the fuck out because now they can’t do their job because their buttons have moved or the icon has changed.

  • kamstrup ( kamstrup@programming.dev ) 
    4·
    2 年前

    There is a dangerously large population of devs and managers that look at themselves, unironically, as the gigachads pumping out ui “upgrades”

    Many of these fail to realize how disruptive it is. UI change is like API breakage for the brain.

    I have lost track of how many times I’ve tried to help an elderly family member with an app after some pointless, trivial, ui change. Only ending with them entirely giving up on using the app after the “upgrade” because the cognitive overhead of the change is beyond the skill that can fairly be expected for them 💔