unlawfulbooger ( @unlawfulbooger@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English21•2 months agoThis is slander and I will not stand for it: I bet Jadzia would be down for a nice fash bash
probableprotogen ( @probableprotogen@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English15•2 months agoImagine not wanting to kill neo-nazis but be fine with Isreali war crimes, involving the genocide of many innocent lives
- intensely_human ( @intensely_human@lemm.ee ) English5•2 months ago
I’ve been called a neo nazi before. Are you advocating for killing me?
What’s the threshold where you’re sure enough that someone’s a nazi that it’s now ethical to kill them?
within_epsilon ( @within_epsilon@beehaw.org ) English1•2 months agoKilling another human is not ethical. Domination can make killing another human necessary. Your death could be necessary if you are dominating other humans.
What are your thoughts on John Brown?
- intensely_human ( @intensely_human@lemm.ee ) English2•2 months ago
Sorry man. (a) I don’t know who John Brown is, (b) I’m not participating in an interrogation whose purpose is to determine whether I’ll be included in your mass killing.
within_epsilon ( @within_epsilon@beehaw.org ) English2•2 months agoI assumed you are familiar with American history. You assumed I want mass killing. I will simplify my question. When is it necessary to kill another human?
For education, John Brown was an American Abolitionist. That means he did not think anyone should be enslaved. To keep it simple, he attempted to spur a slave rebellion. He killed slave owners.
probableprotogen ( @probableprotogen@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•2 months agoMy threshold is the ‘violent MAGA crowd’. The ones too far gone into the alt-right cult. If some twitter user calls you a nazi, that means shit unless you were acting like a nazi.
nondescripthandle ( @nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English12•2 months agoFascism is intolerable and should be resisted by any and ALL means. No ifs, ands, or buts.
BmeBenji ( @BmeBenji@lemm.ee ) English2•2 months agoAt what point do our moral obligations directly conflict with the Rule of Law?
When does the need for doing The Right Thing™️ override the need for doing it The Right Way™️?
Before you answer just know that I know that I don’t know that I’ll ever know the full and complete answer to that question
Drewelite ( @Drewelite@lemmynsfw.com ) English3•2 months agoThe Right Thing™️ means a great many different things to a great many different people. Law is a way of funneling the most functional of these things into rules that most can agree with and live by. This requires a sacrifice of living not by your own ideology, but by one best for the whole, in exchange for a safe and functional society.
When The Right Way™️ starts catering to the interests of a few, the society becomes less safe and functional for the majority of its occupants. Thus making compliance and participation in its rules a bum deal for the populous. We obey by choice to get safety and security. When people stop feeling like society is fulfilling it’s end of the bargain, they revolt. So the question is, at what point do you feel like you’re being fleeced?
The Cuuuuube ( @Cube6392@beehaw.org ) English1•2 months agoIn the grand scheme of ethics… Probably immediately. There’s nothing about the police or the legal system that entitles them to moral superiority. They’re just richer and have more time on their hands. Keep in mind the legal system is the same legal system that gave us citizens united, two calamitous wars in West Asia, and golden parachutes for rich criminals. They’re just a system of exploitation that makes sure their favored corporations get to exploit everything and everyone while we’re all too poor and hungry to fight back because they’ve made it sink or swim for us
within_epsilon ( @within_epsilon@beehaw.org ) English2•2 months agoI agree. Legal and ethical are not the same. Legal does not imply just.