verdare [he/him] ( @verdare@beehaw.org ) 88•2 months agoI can’t be the only one who didn’t give much weight to the “registered Republican” thing, right? I’ve considered registering as Republican just to do damage control in their primaries, and I know people who’ve done just that.
That being said, if this guy really does turn out to be a Republican I fully expect conservatives to try and gaslight everyone into thinking he was actually Antifa or something.
FartsWithAnAccent ( @FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io ) 33•2 months agoRepublican, democrat, something else: I think it’s all plausible, we don’t know anything about the person or their motives yet.
Slovene ( @Slovene@feddit.nl ) 19•2 months agoHe was probably trying to impress Jodie Foster.
FartsWithAnAccent ( @FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io ) 8•2 months agoShould’ve tried being a beautiful gay lady I guess.
FartsWithAnAccent ( @FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io ) 3•2 months agoI’m aware
Mycatiskai ( @Mycatiskai@lemmy.ca ) 18•2 months agoHe did attempt to kill a fascist so he literally is an anti-fascist.
We don’t know his reasoning so until that becomes clear questions remain.
He might have been brother of a child rape victim, he might have loved Stormy Daniels until she was soiled by Trump, he might just be a old school Republican tired of the crazy in charge of his party. All seem reasonable things to hate Trump for but none are reason to kill him.
I’d rather Trump face jail time than die from an assassin. Him bitching to his cellie because he isn’t allowed to have his phone and Truth Social access is a far better fate for him.
queermunist she/her ( @queermunist@lemmy.ml ) 46•2 months agoKilling fascists doesn’t inherently make you antifascist. Fascists kill each other all the time!
kriz ( @kriz@slrpnk.net ) 11•2 months agoHe was 20 years old. He might have registered republican just to try ways of getting closer to trump
DragonTypeWyvern ( @DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ) 3•2 months ago RadicalCandour ( @RadicalCandour@startrek.website ) 6•2 months agoSo he read about Doe 147 and got even more disgusted than I did? Which, yeah. I don’t blame him if that was his motive.
That was some of the sickest shit I’ve ever read about someone with so much power and influence.
Re: recently unsealed Epstein documents uncover who Doe 147 is (trump) and recounts some of the experiences told by the abused girls.
Saurok ( @Saurok@lemm.ee ) 1•2 months agoThis doesn’t look like the same person as Crooks. I saw a video of someone that looks similar to the dude in this picture make a troll video after the fact saying HE was the shooter and he’s “still out there”. It very much seems like either this same person made an IG account immediately after to mess with people or someone else saw that video and chose to make this account to mess with people. Either way, I don’t think this is the same person as the shooter.
diskmaster23 ( @diskmaster23@lemmy.one ) English3•2 months agoI thought I could do that, because I live in a Red county, but all the Republicans in the primary were crazy. So, I didn’t.
Ioughttamow ( @Ioughttamow@kbin.run ) 67•2 months agoHunter Bidens laptop could have stopped this. Dark Brandon will kill again!
Uriel238 [all pronouns] ( @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English33•2 months agoUnless the late Mr. Crooks jotted down a manifesto or otherwise is discovered to reveal his motive, we’re not going to know, and are only able to guess at why he shot at Trump. Let me repeat that: We can only guess and will never know unless we get really lucky.
(One of my favorite details of a shooter incident was Adam Lanza’s favorite video game obsession, Dance Dance Revolution since it was still a common opinion that video games trained rampage killers. Tastes in video games and music are about as useful as needing to impress Jodie Foster, or reread The Catcher In the Rye. You may be a lover, Adam, but you ain’t no dancer.)
Crooks’ choice of weapon (an AR-15–style rifle ) indicates a weapon of convenience. He didn’t have the time or means to get something that was more suited to the task. This fits more the profile of a radicalized civilian than a trained operative.
When Al-Qaeda wanted to attack a target (or CIA, or IRA, or any other active group trying to influence a theater of conflict) they’d look at the suicide demographics. What young people are killing themselves in high numbers. Then, in the internet age, it’s a matter of finding people who are self-radicalized, who want to express their outrage violently. And then its a matter of grooming that person (in this case very much the way predators groom children) to see the target of interest as the site / VIP / venue of the terror action. The rampage killer / saboteur / terrorist never knows who he’s working for or what his cause is, only that by suicide bombing at this site, he’ll be heard and known.
Is this to say Crooks was pointed at killing Trump by CIA? Not at all. Trump is an easy viable target, and there are plenty of reasons to be pissed off at him that make sense. But the reason that Crooks had to express his discontent violently has likely very little to do with Trump directly, and whether he’s left-wing and wants to stop the US’ descent into one-party autocracy, or he’s far-right wing and thinks Trump is selling out isn’t why he’s shooting.
There are however, droves of pre-radicalized war boys in the US, silver paint in hand wanting an opportunity to be witnessed all shiny and chrome into Valhalla. A lot of them can be seen in the alt-right, the incels, the MGTOWs the alpha-male wannabes who have been entirely disregarded since they were teens without explanation or education, and are expected by society to either magically turn into high-paid salarymen, or suffer as losers in a single-occupant dwelling in a dead-end job where they’re overworked and underpaid. This lot tends to be a bit dissatisfied with their lot in life.
I’m not saying Crooks is one of these guys, only that it’s a big circle on the Venn-diagram, and not a difficult target to fall into. This circle not only has a higher-than-average male suicide rate (which is already high in the general population) but also is where pro-trump militants and the transnational white power movement gets its recruits. And they tend to register Republican.
Again, we don’t know, only this might inform our guesses.
DragonTypeWyvern ( @DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ) 5•2 months ago Default_Defect ( @Default_Defect@midwest.social ) English15•2 months agoThere were a ton of fake accounts made the second a name was released, excuse me for not taking a screenshot as proof of anything.
DragonTypeWyvern ( @DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ) 6•2 months agoThat’s fair, I’m certainly not going to check the account details as that would require having an account myself, like some kind of weird Nazi.
zcd ( @zcd@lemmy.ca ) 28•2 months agoIt’s always the ones you suspect the most
Marighost ( @Marighost@lemm.ee ) 8•2 months agoDefinitely a planned assassination attempt. Used as the rallying call for his supporters. The picture of him holding his fist up just after being shot at proved it; no one, I believe, would be able to muster that sort of gusto after having a real attempt on their life.
bigbuckalex ( @bigbuckalex@lemmy.zip ) 24•2 months agoLol, you think he got someone to shoot him in the ear on purpose? You’re insane
GoodEye8 ( @GoodEye8@lemm.ee ) English17•2 months agoClearly you haven’t been pumped up on adrenaline. It can absolutely give you the confidence to act like he did.
And don’t you think it’s a bit contradictory to not have the gusto to throw your fist in the air after being shot but being stone cold calm before getting shot? If it was planned Trump would’ve known he’s going to get shot at and like the coward he is he wouldn’t have just stared at the shooter.
Also we don’t know the cartridge of the weapon but if the weapon used 556 or 223, then it’s very unlikely it was staged because those would shred Trump if they actually hit him. If it was 9mm or 22 it would be more believable, but even then would you really risk killing the candidate just to prop up votes? He didn’t seem to be wearing a BP vest so even smaller rounds would have been life threatening.
I very much doubt it was staged or false flag or anything of the sorts. It just doesn’t make sense to me. Trump should get an Oscar if it was planned that way.
DragonTypeWyvern ( @DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ) 1•2 months agoMy dude thinks 223 is big boy bullets
oatscoop ( @oatscoop@midwest.social ) English10•2 months agoThe idea of shooting any round at someone and expecting to “just wound them” is absurd, but .223/5.56 is definitely in the range of “reliably fatal if applied to the chest or head” .
It might not be a “big boy round” but it’s still a rifle round – if wasn’t powerful enough to reliably “incapacitate” (i.e. kill) a human being at 100 yards the world’s militaries wouldn’t still be using after 40+ years.
naevaTheRat ( @naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 6•2 months agoReal men can shrug off any calibre not designed to punch through car engine blocks.
Shit, I hear that if you use enough power tools and watch enough sportsball even those liquid copper jet tank boomy things have a hard time getting through the protective crust of sawdust and testosterone.
Obi ( @Obi@sopuli.xyz ) 2•2 months agoLol power tools… Literally devices made to make hard work easy, so funny that they became this manly symbol.
naevaTheRat ( @naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 1•2 months agoOh idk, fucksaws are pretty manly. Love a man that knows his way around a fucksaw.
nickwitha_k (he/him) ( @nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org ) 3•2 months ago.22LR can readily kill someone, with good shot placement. Basically anything interfering with the heart, brain, or causing substantial leaks of the circulatory system is gonna kill someone.
DragonTypeWyvern ( @DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ) 2•2 months agoYou’re the dude pretending 9mm would be a reasonable false flag ammo lol
oatscoop ( @oatscoop@midwest.social ) English6•2 months ago… you might want to re-read my comment because I’m definitely not saying that. The idea of “Shooting to wound” with any live round is moronic. Even .22lr can easily kill or cripple someone regardless of the shooter’s intent.
I take issue with downplaying how powerful .223/5.56 is. Sure, there are absolutely more powerful rifle rounds. That being said, here’s a video of cheap surplus 5.56 FMJ punching through 1/4" steel plate at 200 yards.
GoodEye8 ( @GoodEye8@lemm.ee ) English2•2 months agoMy point was that if you had to have someone shooting at you would you rather they shot 22lr or 223? Shooting any live round at a target you don’t actually want to injure or kill is stupid, but if you had to you’d want to use the smallest possible bullet to minimize the damage.
Mambert ( @Mambert@beehaw.org ) 10•2 months agoYou can hear on the videos that he was told the shooter was down.
So like, yeah fist pump.
Uriel238 [all pronouns] ( @uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English4•2 months agoNot with an AR-15 clone. The accuracy on those beyond 100 meters is crap. That was almost assuredly a weapon of convenience.
Now, it’s totally possible some operative groomed him to take the shot, if he was already eager enough to make an attack and just needed encouragement / direction. But then even he probably didn’t know actually who.
thegr8goldfish ( @thegr8goldfish@startrek.website ) 2•2 months agoHe just caught a scratch. Holding up his arm isn’t the smart thing to do but that just makes it more authentic.
kingthrillgore ( @KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ) 6•2 months agoIt doesn’t matter. This is the Reichstag Fire.