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David Gerard ( dgerard@awful.systems ) M to SneerClub@awful.systemsEnglish · 2 years ago

Roko puts self on ice floe, saving us the trouble

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Roko puts self on ice floe, saving us the trouble

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David Gerard ( dgerard@awful.systems ) M to SneerClub@awful.systemsEnglish · 2 years ago
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  • skillissuer ( skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    i like how he started on the premise that iceberg is cheap real estate, then okay let’s cover underside with thermal insulation, and also reinforce top with freshwater ice, that freshwater will be have to be transported there and then frozen in place, and also let’s cover top with expanded glass and concrete, and let’s put wood pulp and basalt fiber rebar in ice, and

    all while never counting beans, and any and all numbers are entirely pulled out of his ass

    • David Gerard ( dgerard@awful.systems ) OP
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      even on lesswrong the guy going through his numbers for how concrete behaves

      • Soyweiser ( Soyweiser@awful.systems ) 
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        Roko even said the ‘I think agricultural waste products like straw can be substituted for sawdust so maybe you are paid to take it off their hands.[emph mine]’ line. which is always a good sign when somebody is trying to the economically feasible math.

        • skillissuer ( skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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          yeah let’s just divert entire global straw output so that Roko can build his libertarian crypto paradise

          also straw is not a waste, wtf is he thinking

          • AllNewTypeFace ( AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ) 
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            Maybe he was thinking of straw that has already been through the horse?

            • mosiacmango ( mosiacmango@lemm.ee ) 
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              Ahh, horseshit. It is a key libertarian building block.

              • Soyweiser ( Soyweiser@awful.systems ) 
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                New form of pykrete made out of manure and ice. Eventually the Icebertarians will get use to the smell (an AI company is also working on a CRISPR fix), and with the problems of excessive manure and thus nitrate in places like the Netherlands, you are paid to take it off their hands! Win win!

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                  @Soyweiser Why not make pykrete out of neoreactionaries?

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                    They’d have to classify a proportion of themselves as subhuman first, and then they could make history’s most literal implementation of the mudsill theory.

                  • Soyweiser ( Soyweiser@awful.systems ) 
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                    Time to Cronenberg it up. Anybody want a new appartment in Roko the skyscraper? Long live the new flesh! No pets!

                • o7___o7 ( o7___o7@awful.systems ) 
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                  A Turdburg on a turdberg. Not be a shining city on a hill, but it might have high albedo.

                  • AllNewTypeFace ( AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space ) 
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                    Oh, it would shine. Like shit on a barn door.

        • flavia ( ibt3321@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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          Even if it was waste, the sellers would notice and start charging for it. Libertarians have a fucked up definition of what ‘waste’ also with bitcoin mining.

          • skillissuer ( skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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            straw goes for something like $70-100 per ton (in poland; depends on region and other factors) sawdust is probably cheaper

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          It’s hard for me to even imagine a more apt description of a privileged silver-spoon moron than thinking straw is waste and people would pay you to get rid of it.

          Human minds are amazing, I can’t even hypothesise what thought processes, if any, led him there

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            And even if it was waste, that you are planning to build megastructures with it makes it no longer waste very quickly, and as there was no demand for the product before and now it is in high demand, the price will prob do some very interesting things. A suggestion was made to use sugarcane bagasse which has no other use it seems. But that would then also quickly get a use and increase in price, which would also do things to the price of replacement products, like sawdust, or straw. And I assume that if the price of straw in the world rises a lot due to this megaconstruction a lot of farmers would be unhappy, but yeah fuck the poor countries.

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      Just program the godlike AI to turn everything into pykrete instead of paperclips.

      Problem solved.

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