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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/37281970
Believe it or not, an unexpected conflict has arisen in the openSUSE community with its long-time supporter and namesake, the SUSE company.
At the heart of this tension lies a quiet request that has stirred not-so-quiet ripples across the open source landscape: SUSE has formally asked openSUSE to discontinue using its brand name.
Richard Brown, a key figure within the openSUSE project, shared insights into the discussions that have unfolded behind closed doors.
Despite SUSE’s request’s calm and respectful tone, the implications of not meeting it could be far-reaching, threatening the symbiotic relationship that has benefited both entities over the years.
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OpenSueUs
Just rename it jeSUSE, because nobody fucks with the jeSUSE.
Eight years of long term support, dude.
Doesn’t SUSE actively benefit from openSUSE development? I thought Tumbleweed and SLES had a similar relationship as Fedora and RHEL.
Notice that “Fedora” does not have “Redhat” its name. Maybe the request is reasonable. I don’t know how many people think that thy don’t need SLES, because there is openSUSE.
My comment was more about how SUSE benefits from openSUSE development (and vice-versa) and that Tumbleweed has a similar relationship to SLES as Fedora has to RHEL, as they are both upstream of their respective enterprise distributions.
Besides, people don’t need SLES. Enterprises do because of the support they get. And I’d assume employees responsible for that kind of thing at such enterprises would know the difference.
And the Red Hat logo is literally a fedora hat.
If it’s just a name change done well, I couldn’t care less (although openSUSE is a very recognizable name and brand recognition would have to be reestablished). I just hope that this isn’t the beginning of something worse.
Fedora/Redhat is a good example. It could be argued that the Linux distro scene was different 23 years ago, making it harder to be seen today.
The thing I’m pondering is what the openSUSE community actually is. Does it exist as a group, or is it separate projects, each doing their own thing… for who? What is the overlap between people in the various distros, overlap in technology used in packaging and QA etc? Is it meaningful to talk about openSUSE as a distinct community separate from SUSE?
SUSE provide a lot of the infrastructure for openSUSE and base their enterprise Linux from factory.
New name suggestion:
“The Distro Formerly Known As openSUSE”
same energy (and impact) as “X formerly known as Twitter”
It’s a play on “The Artist Formerly Known As Prince”
Careful, Germans take it seriously.
wow. I had a good opinion of suse up to this point. what a silly request after all these years.
Corporate backing is a two-edged sword, unfortunately.
Strange is using and marketing someone else’s name without written permission.
Why do you think linux distros and free software have such strange names? To avoid stepping on someone toes without expensive trademark research.
It’s SUSSY Linux time
or Sussie
That must be annoying just after OpenSUSE went through a branding redesign process. I guess they’ll have to give up the gecko logo since SUSE also uses it?
And there’s more at stake than a rebranding it seems. This could signal SUSE withdrawing development support from OpenSUSE:
Let’s face it: SUSE has been more than just a namesake for openSUSE; it has actively provided resources and support far beyond what it would ordinarily need for its business operations.
This generosity has fostered a thriving openSUSE project that has excelled under SUSE’s goodwill and informal support, including contributions made by SUSE employees on company time.
However, the recent request for a branding separation has overshadowed this partnership. If openSUSE does not handle this request with the sensitivity and cooperation it demands, the project risks not just a reduction in support from SUSE but a potential shift in priorities away from it.
The “Factory first” policy, a cornerstone of the engineering synergy between SUSE and openSUSE, could also be scrutinized, emphasizing the gravity of the current situation.
This could signal SUSE withdrawing development support from OpenSUSE
i had a similar thought; feels like the centos/redhat episode we had a couple years ago.
That quote sounds uncomfortably like a grudge on SUSE Enterprise’s part.
It’s a quote from the article, not a statement by SUSE.
Okay, that’s better.
The request was respectful and SUSEs support on OpenSUSE is very helping the project so I’d personally be fine with fulfilling that request
OpenGNU/SE
Honestly, for a good distro, the brand is not great. Perhaps this can be viewed good opportunity to go with something more unique!
OpenSusame
open sesame
Lizard Linux
Lizard Linux
Lizard Linux
Since I had to deal with some representatives of SUSE corp, I can say that the whole experience was just plain horrible. Don‘t like that company at all and thus am not surprised that the name change topic is even discussed at all.
ESUS OS?
Just go the last step and call it Jesus OS
Reboots after three days and then disappears in the cloud.
JesOS
BezOS … that’s Amazon Linux though.
Temple OS returns!
Temple OS returns!
GSUS
Kind of reads like ASUS
Name it UnownOS. The other variants like MicroOS and Leap all have logos that look like Unowns.
I’m sure Nintendo wouldn’t mind. Their lawyers are known to be pretty chill…
If the just called it other.
It would gain a huge boost in desktop usage figures.