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A widespread Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) issue on Windows PCs disrupted operations across various sectors, notably impacting airlines, banks, and healthcare providers. The issue was caused by a problematic channel file delivered via an update from the popular cybersecurity service provider, CrowdStrike. CrowdStrike confirmed that this crash did not impact Mac or Linux PCs.
It turns out that similar problems have been occurring for months without much awareness, despite the fact that many may view this as an isolated incident. Users of Debian and Rocky Linux also experienced significant disruptions as a result of CrowdStrike updates, raising serious concerns about the company’s software update and testing procedures. These occurrences highlight potential risks for customers who rely on their products daily.
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The analysis revealed that the Debian Linux configuration was not included in their test matrix.
You might as well say you don’t support Linux.
“Crowdstrike’s model seems to be ‘we push software to your machines any time we want, whether or not it’s urgent, without testing it’,” lamented the team member.
I wonder how this shit works on NixOS.
If I’m remembering right, RHEL is Crowdstrike’s primary Linux target. And NixOS wouldn’t even be a factor since it’s basically just not enterprise grade.
That said, they need a serious revision of their QA processes.
RHEL, Ubuntu, & Debian cover the vast majority of enterprise installs I imagine, and provide a solid testing base for developers in the Linux business software space.
Maybe you add Gentoo, some post-CentOS clones/forks, or other more niche industry/workload specific distros, but how you do skip Debian?
RHEL, Ubuntu, & Debian cover the vast majority of enterprise installs I imagine, and provide a solid testing base for developers in the Linux business software space.
Enterprises I imagine are using RHEL, Ubuntu, SUSE’s SLES and Oracle Linux and probably not Debian. But that’s a guess. Where can statistics and numbers be found ?
Largish enterprise heavily using Debian, just 1 data point here but we do exist.
Nice.
consultant for large enterprises in australia, and i literally can’t say i’ve ever seen anyone running anything other than RHEL and amazon linux (so… RHEL) in production… unless we’re talking not for profits, and then that’s been a bit of a mixed bag
In the enterprise realm it is typically SUSE and RHEL.
Because their clients don’t ask them about Debian. They ask about RHEL, Ubuntu, and Amazon Linux
Largish enterprise heavily using Debian, just 1 data point here but we do exist.
That’s a bold assumption for a global enterprise software company. Especially one that doesn’t exclusively target IaaS environments.
I’m not saying “literally none of their clients ask about Debian” I’m just saying it’s not having the market penetration the others do because the kind of corp that pays for crowd strike is also the kind of corp that wants to pay another corp (Like IBM, Oracle, or Canonical) for certain stability and liability coverages
There are probably more authoritative sources that have performed similar surveys or studies, but this was a recent one.
https://www.openlogic.com/blog/top-enterprise-linux-distributions
It was also the first relevant result that I clicked on, and it more or less lined up with my own anecdotal experiences working with a very diverse assortment of businesses, SMB through large enterprise.
If you don’t want to click on that link, or read through it, here is a graph with the results:
Users of Debian and Rocky Linux also experienced significant disruptions as a result of CrowdStrike updates, raising serious concerns about the company’s software update and testing procedures. These occurrences highlight potential risks for customers who rely on their products daily.
Hot take: maybe bossware is a fucking drain on society, and people should stop buying it.
Well, if the executive leech class wants workers to have bossware, there’s not all that much people can do about it. Can’t just decide to not use it if your employer demands it
Worse, my employer doesn’t care about this shit but our clients are demanding we have the bossware installed.
I didn’t mean the average worker. I meant the “executive leech class,” because downtime of this scale means lost profits, which is something they care deeply about.
which is something they care deeply about.
They care about quarterly profits. Preventing fuckups of this scale requires long-term effort which is not profitable by itself, it only prevents possible future fuckups, and this is why proper QC etc. aren’t done. Short term profits over everything else.
In that case, it’s time for the average workers to sabotage the bossware. Let the leech class solve the problem they create.
Hospitals are effected by this too.
So?
Why are sensitive or critical hospital systems loaded with bossware? That itself is a breach of medical safety regulations and medical privacy. If such bossware fails for whatever reason - even sabotage, it’s on the leach class. Prosecute them for murder.
The software is not the problem. Software breaks all the time. The problem is monocultures and centralization. Building entire industry ecosystems all around a single point of failure. This is the just-in-time manufacturing supply chain disruptions and fragility all over again.
Who knew, a diverse ecosystem was a strength, not a weakness.
The software is the problem if it’s produced with a corporate mentality of “ship first, fix later”.
“I don’t test often but when I do I test on the entire planet”
There’s a concept in this industry where you eat your own dog food.
Deploying these updates to your own people could have avoided this mess.
It’s a well assembled article, but mostly based on a few comments in a hackernews post from yesterday. I would like to know how widespread it was.
Check the news
It was everwhere
I am not the author of the article.
Even though it’s everywhere on the news, that’s the Windows thing. I still don’t know how widespread it is on Linux or if it’s even the same issue as on Windows.
@lemmee_in I can’t find any news about this. Just a statement in a forum and everyone basing subsequent articles on that. It appears to have been limited to a single company? Is there any support for this claim?
Based on the article, it seems like the issue only happens on a specific distro. Is it only Rocky or other Debians?
I wonder if other distros experience similar issues. Maybe linux based users don’t even install CS at all and try to leave their OS as lean as possible.