Since 2020, the condition known as long COVID-19 has become a widespread disability affecting the health and quality of life of millions of people across the globe and costing economies billions of dollars in reduced productivity of employees and an overall drop in the work force.
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- jjjalljs ( @jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ) 25•2 months ago
Anti-vaxxers and other pro-virus people have blood on their hands, and should be treated accordingly.
- ReallyActuallyFrankenstein ( @ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com ) English14•2 months ago
“Just another flu” is what everyone now feels, not because there’s ever been a clear argument for that status, but because everyone got tired of being worried and by universal acquiescence decided it’s so. But these studies show everyone just keeps rolling the dice on long COVID every time they get sick.
And I get it. It’s like driving more carefully after getting in an accident. It’s hard to feel the urgency of what a lifelong chronic disability means until you’re close enough to touch it, and then it might be too late. I’m also tired of being worried. I just guess the virus didn’t get that memo…
- Tryptaminev ( @Tryptaminev@lemm.ee ) 11•2 months ago
A flu, opposed to a common cold can absolutely give you long term health impacts, similar to what is described as long COVID.
A flu is also very much deadly for vulnerable groups, especially elderly people.
Let’s face it though. COVID is just the first of many pandemics we will see in the near future. The factors that favor pandemics are every increasing. Destruction and encroachment of natural land forces animals into contact with humans. Higher temperatures make it easier for airborne viruses to spread and survive. Dealing with extreme temperatures, pollution and stress lowers humans immune abilities. Ever increasing population densities make the spread of diseases easier.
But we will continue at best with treating the symptoms, or not even that, with measures like lockdowns or mask mandates. But the root causes of the pandemics will not be treated, as those require to change the economic system and way of life away from capitalism.
- corsicanguppy ( @corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ) English2•2 months ago
The virus got the memo and is waiting for its chance.
- 1984 ( @1984@lemmy.today ) 9•2 months ago
I still think these effects come from the vaccine, not the virus.
It would be interesting to see data showing if unvaccinated people got long covid symptoms. But since society decided to try and force vaccinations on everyone, I think it’s going to be hard to see such data.
- MentalEdge ( @MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ) 72•2 months ago
Vaccines*
There was more than one, but none of them were unusual in composition.
Long COVID is the permanent health proplems which people can suffer after recovering from COVID. It was noticed in people who survived infection even before any of the vaccines were developed.
So how the fuck can it be caused by the vaccine?! Not to mention studies show that being vaccinated REDUCES the severity of COVID, in terms of both temporary and permanent effects!
People who aren’t vaccinated get hit HARDER by long COVID, not spared the condition entirely. The immune system reacts to the disease and vaccine in exactly the same way. Surviving COVID unvaccinated doesn’t somehow mean your body beats the disease off “more properly”.
It means the opposite, the disease gets more time to do more damage against a less prepared immune system.
Even the “Pfizer admits myocarditis side effect” thing that made the rounds on social media last year, was a known side effect that someone tried to make seem like it had been kept secret or covered up, and only “officially” admitted to last year. In reality it has been on the list of potential side effects since 2021. It’s extremely rare, and suffering actual COVID has a far greater chance of causing the same complication.
- Drusas ( @Drusas@kbin.run ) 60•2 months ago
Long Covid has existed for longer than the vaccines have.
- solsangraal ( @solsangraal@lemmy.zip ) English46•2 months ago
i can’t believe it’s 2024 and we’re still having to put up with antivaxxer bullshit
- tenchiken ( @tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 28•2 months ago
I think it actually got worse unfortunately… The long COVID IQ drop only made them double down and get louder.
There is data and it’s not hidden. See https://www.bmj.com/content/380/bmj.p491.
The participants’ experience with long covid was compared with 455 unvaccinated people who matched the vaccinated group for age, sex, coexisting health conditions, and long covid severity, among other metrics.
- protist ( @protist@mander.xyz ) English35•2 months ago
I still think these effects come from the vaccine, not the virus, based on my complete lack of knowledge and/or willful ignorance of the subject.
I’m ignoring the data showing whether unvaccinated people got long covid symptoms. But since society decided to try and force vaccinations on everyone, and I didn’t like that, I’m going to continue to tell everyone vaccines are bad because that’s the narrative I want to push.
You’re ignoring data so hard you didn’t even read the article you’re here commenting on lmao
- ryannathans ( @ryannathans@aussie.zone ) 35•2 months ago
First paragraph of the article
when the omicron family of variants predominated, that rate declined to 7.7% among unvaccinated adults and 3.5% of vaccinated adults
- floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English31•2 months ago
What do you think of the various studies showing that vaccination reduces the risk of long COVID?
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/17/health/long-covid-vaccines.html
(Archive without paywall: https://archive.ph/20240718022942/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/17/health/long-covid-vaccines.html)
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/vaccination-dramatically-lowers-long-covid-risk/
And the one in the BMJ from 2023 that someone else linked.
There’s also an increasing scientific understanding of what causes long COVID (and again this article mentions how vaccination reduces the risk):
- TachyonTele ( @TachyonTele@lemm.ee ) 21•2 months ago
Nothing. They won’t look at it. Or they’ll choose to not believe it.
- floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English7•2 months ago
Seems you were right. Their curiosity for data evaporated as soon as people gave them all the data they needed.
- floofloof ( @floofloof@lemmy.ca ) English19•2 months ago
Why?
- TachyonTele ( @TachyonTele@lemm.ee ) 18•2 months ago
Do you think it’s going to be hard to see the data because you won’t look at it?
- mustbe3to20signs ( @mustbe3to20signs@feddit.org ) English12•2 months ago
Yeah, it makes so much more sense that doctors, institutions and (enemy) governments conspired to… what? Poison people?
Way more plausible than a new virus causing a autoimmune condition already observed to be triggered by other viruses for centuries. - LainTrain ( @LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 5•2 months ago
Literally 1984
- BigMacHole ( @BigMacHole@lemm.ee ) 1•2 months ago
AGREED! There was ZERO cases of Long Covid until AFTER people EVENTUALLY started getting the JAB!
- Che Banana ( @The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org ) 2•2 months ago
Hahaaaa! Got’em!
- ᕙ(⇀‸↼‶)ᕗ ( @yournamehere@lemm.ee ) 1•2 months ago
sssshhhhhh. silence.
is there a housing crisis? so shut up and enjoy the next wave of dumb people die. sounds cruel? isnt! it is nature at its best.
also is there a leopardsatemayface on lemmy for this already?