- HewlettHackard ( @HewlettHackard@lemmy.ca ) English33•2 months ago
It was sold in the gift shop, not on display. I know it’s not an enormous difference, but let’s try our best to keep the misinformation just on their side.
- therealjcdenton ( @therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip ) English8•2 months ago
I dont think sexism fits, racism/race supremacy does. Emphasis on corporations also don’t fit, wouldnt government taking control of them fit more?
- octopus_ink ( @octopus_ink@lemmy.ml ) English8•2 months ago
Sounds like it’s the holocaust museum folks you need to argue with about that.
- Malgas ( @Malgas@beehaw.org ) English5•2 months ago
Umberto Eco, who grew up in fascist Italy and has written extensively on the characteristics of fascism, disagrees with you about the sexism.
- halvar ( @halvar@lemm.ee ) English4•2 months ago
No, fascism has no religion and government intertwining and corporate power is not protected under fascism, because fascists want everything under government control, which includes corporations as well. Most of the points are correct, but I feel this is a bit biased and overall trying to project current issues through nazism; both are bad, but I think it’s very important to make the distinction. Know your enemy.
- Firefly7 ( @Firefly7@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English16•2 months ago
Most fascist dictatorships have had large privatizations and all have favored corporations in economic policy. You act like business-state collaboration under fascism was unique to the nazis, but it was also central to fascist Italy, Francoist Spain, and right-wing dictatorships like those of Pinochet or the military in Brazil.
Fascism happens when capitalism is in crisis because it’s better for the corporations than socialism would be. Both Italy and Germany had strong socialist movements in the years before fascists came to power, and fascists are consistently funded by a business community that fears losing everything it has. The fascist emphasis on the state, nationalism, and war, is only because it’s required to suppress organized labor.
- BlackLaZoR ( @BlackLaZoR@kbin.run ) 4•2 months ago
You mistook Fascism for Nazism. Especially flag is a Nazi symbol
- AggressivelyPassive ( @agressivelyPassive@feddit.de ) English20•2 months ago
And you know what that bundle of sticks is called in Latin? Fascis. That’s where the name comes from.
Also, nationalsocialism is just one of plenty forms of fascism. It’s an umbrella term. And arguing that a poster warns of the wrong sect of genocidal nationalist dictatorship, is just absolutely beyond any kind brain rot.
- BlackLaZoR ( @BlackLaZoR@kbin.run ) 1•2 months ago
bundle of sticks is called in Latin? Fascis
Yes, what about it?
Also, nationalsocialism is just one of plenty forms of fascism
National Socialism was in Germany, perpetrated by Hitler, Fascism was in Italy, perpetrated by Mussolini. Every semi decent historian will tell you that
- seSvxR3ull7LHaEZFIjM ( @seSvxR3ull7LHaEZFIjM@feddit.de ) English17•2 months ago
Every historian better than half decent will also tell you that those two systems of government were closely related (totalitarian political violence).
- BlackLaZoR ( @BlackLaZoR@kbin.run ) 2•2 months ago
True, but also they had significant differences - one was that German Nazis were fixated around race, while Italian Fascists weren’t.
Second difference is that Italian Fascizm murdered much less people.
You just can’t ignore that
- RidderSport ( @RidderSport@feddit.org ) English15•2 months ago
Tell me you don’t understand the term “umbrella term” means, without telling me you don’t understand
- BlackLaZoR ( @BlackLaZoR@kbin.run ) 1•2 months ago
I’m not aware of any mid 1930s National Socialists calling themselves Fascists, nor Italian Fascists calling themselves National Socialists.
The “umbrealla term” seems to be invented later for… well why exactly?
- RidderSport ( @RidderSport@feddit.org ) English6•2 months ago
For right-wing nationalistic authocracities. How parties label themselves often contradicts with what they stand for
- seSvxR3ull7LHaEZFIjM ( @seSvxR3ull7LHaEZFIjM@feddit.de ) English5•2 months ago
Depends on what your historical question is. In most cases, this difference of degree wouldn’t matter.
- Killing_Spark ( @Killing_Spark@feddit.de ) English7•2 months ago
One Thing I’ve learned is not to trust semi decent historians. They tend to oversimplify things a lot