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- SorteKanin ( @SorteKanin@feddit.dk ) 14•2 months ago
People in here are arguing about whether the government should be able to allow or disallow protests, i.e. “legal” or “illegal” protests.
I think Denmark has a good middle ground solution to this: Protests must be declared to the police ahead of time, so they know it is happening. Note that this is not an application or an ask for permission! You always have permission, you only have to make the police aware that you are protesting, so they can monitor it and ensure it follows law and order and doesn’t turn violent.
- tobogganablaze ( @tobogganablaze@lemmus.org ) English7•2 months ago
You always have permission*
* terms and conditions may apply
- Prandom_returns ( @Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ) 10•2 months ago
Guys, I’m planning to cause a traffic jam, and you all are invited.
Oh wait, that’s just normal traffic. Oh well, see y’all in jail.
- parpol ( @parpol@programming.dev ) 5•2 months ago
Just Stop Oil are the people that were blocking traffic of normal everyday citizens.
Their sentences weren’t lengthy enough in my opinion.
- MelodiousFunk ( @MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net ) 47•2 months ago
- Ctri ( @Ctri@beehaw.org ) English36•2 months ago
Peaceful protest should not be a cause for government punishment at all, this sentence is absolutely insane and should be revoked at the earliest convenience.
The new government should restore our right to protest policies without fear of imprisonment.
- parpol ( @parpol@programming.dev ) 3•2 months ago
There is nothing peaceful about blocking traffic.
It is first off illegal to protest on a busy road unless you’ve acquired a permit and have a way to redirect traffic. What they were doing were illegal protests.
Second, it doesn’t matter what your message is. If you block traffic, you are the biggest cunt there is, and you are actively harming your own cause by showing the world what kind of people you are. If you’ve seen the videos, and read the comments, you know that 99% of the people are cheering when angry drivers pull the protesters by their hair out of the streets.
- mranachi ( @mranachi@aussie.zone ) 19•2 months ago
The entitlement of some people the moment they have a car. “Somebody took 20min of my time, they literally deserve 5 years in jail and to be assaulted in public.”. You’re sick, nothing your doing is important, sit in traffic and seeth. If you don’t like it, take the train.
- YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH ( @YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub ) 28•2 months ago
Booo. This is a bad opinion. You should feel bad.
- apotheotic (she/her) ( @apotheotic@beehaw.org ) English17•2 months ago
Do you think that their protest action should instead not inconvenience anyone so that it can continue to be ignored like all climate protests of that nature have been for decades?
- NostraDavid ( @NostraDavid@programming.dev ) 4•2 months ago
I still don’t understand why JSO is bothering common folk with their protests, go block politicians - you know, the people who YOU want to make the treatise to stop the use of oil!
I agree with what they want (though it would’ve been nice if they had a plan how to slow down our oil use, but then again they’re no experts on that), but I do think they’re being dumb on how to achieve it. You don’t see Union Strikers block off a highway to get what they want, they’ll instead block off some plant where they work - now that makes sense! Go bother politicians.
- bane_killgrind ( @bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net ) English11•2 months ago
The problem with “they should have a plan” is that we have viable plans and nobody that’s currently benefiting from oil will take any steps towards implementing them.
- MrMakabar ( @MrMakabar@slrpnk.net ) English3•2 months ago
It is not acceptable anywhere. This “in a democracy” bit is just taking away blaim from dictator who do this kind of stuff all the time.
- lud ( @lud@lemm.ee ) 9•2 months ago
No, the point of the sentence isn’t to take away blame. It is to compare them to dictatorships. I.E. Add more blame