Discord?
Eh! If this is the only community place, then thanks no.
You could make discord <–> IRC bot. Problem solved :D
No, problem not solved, problem half-heartedly worked around. People dislike Discord for several reasons, bridging it to whatever different platform will at best be a bandaid.
Do they even allow that kind of interoperability? I thought Discord was 100% our terrible browser application way or the highway?
They don’t, officially, as far as I know it’s always been an “at your own risk, might get your account banned” endeavor.
Antitrust crackdown when
on Discord
Your couldn’t throw us a bone by including a link? 😉
That’s okay, I got you covered.
As always, if you upload an image as post content, then at least link to the project in the post body: https://vanillaos.org Not because its hard to type, its just good practice in my opinion. Gets more true the more complicated the links get, BTW. /rant over- Here is the blog post about the beta: https://vanillaos.org/blog/article/2024-01-30/vanilla-os-2-orchid-beta-is-here
- A video about this distribution (1 year ago before VanillaOS 2) by Brodie: YouTube or through Invidious He also has an interview, but I’m too lazy to search for right now. If you are interested, search for his other channel called “Tech Over Tea” and then look for the vanilla os interview.
In short, this distribution is based on Distrobox, which is a manager to install applications from various other distributions. So it comes with a package manager, that is actually managing Distrobox. The cool thing about Distrobox is, that you can install packages from Arch or Ubuntu and they are all sandboxed in their environment. But you can “export” those apps, so that it integrates into your actual host system. BTW its not emulation, its sandboxed like Flatpak is in example.
I’m curious about this OS for a very long time. But to me it complicates stuff a bit over a regular OS. I’m not ready for Distrobox, but love the concept it has. If I was on Debian, then this would be a whole lot more interesting to me. But when I think about, its probably not bad for developers too. Maybe I’ll get into it someday.
So… immutable fork of Ubuntu 21?
A fork of Debian, but yes.
Vanilla OS is the Ubuntu derivative, Vanilla OS 2 Orchid will be the Debian derivative
TY, when scrolling through the site, I didn’t find a single time mentioning it Ubuntu, but Debian compatibility. However the beta release notification is enlightening:
The system consists of a hybrid base of Debian packages and Vib modules. The major change in Orchid is the switch from Ubuntu to Debian, providing more flexibility and control over the system and update distribution.
what’s the immutability / atomic mechanism for this? not ostree or btrfs like fedora and opensuse’s offerings? All I see is A/B partitioning listed? something more akin to android?
Read this for the most complete and comprehensive answer on the matter.
TL;DR: Like Fedora Atomic, it utilizes OCI images for its immutability. However, while Fedora Atomic combines this with libostree/OSTree for git-like management of your system, Vanilla OS (instead) keeps it relatively simple with just A/B partioning; which indeed is somewhat reminiscent to what’s found on Android.
This looks interesting but so different from what I’m used to that I’ll stick to my BTRFS snapshot-based system until I understand it better. Perhaps I’ll try it in a VM.
How are they handling things that need low level access and don’t work well in distrobox like pen tablet drivers, CoreCtrl/undervolting software, printer drivers, etc…?
