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Magnolia_ ( Magnolia_@lemmy.ca )  to Linux@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 年前

This is why people should stop recommending Arch. Fedora or Opensuse TW should be recommended instead for new people.

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This is why people should stop recommending Arch. Fedora or Opensuse TW should be recommended instead for new people.

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Magnolia_ ( Magnolia_@lemmy.ca )  to Linux@lemmy.mlEnglish · 2 年前
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  • cygnus ( cygnus@lemmy.ca ) 
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    I’m not watching some rando groyper’s clickbait. What is the reason?

  • The Ramen Dutchman ( lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network ) 
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    Who tf is out there recommending new people Arch? What a non-issue!

    • Telorand ( Telorand@reddthat.com ) 
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      I might recommend something Arch-based that’s opinionated and feature-complete, like Manjaro or Garuda, but I’d recommend pure Arch to the same people who would equally enjoy NixOS.

    • krolden ( krolden@lemmy.ml ) 
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      Its a good way to learn how different parts of Linux work

      After you install arch a couple times you won’t be making posts asking why your grub is broken, youll already k ow how to fix it.

      • The Ramen Dutchman ( lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network ) 
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        I’d recommend something that guesses how to install grub onto your system correctly for beginners, and let them figure this stuff out when they’re used to basic Linux usage TBH

        • t_378 ( t_378@lemmy.one ) 
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          I had many problems with installing grub in a dual boot configuration, so much so that I moved to systemd-boot and never had problems after. I don’t know why, but it’s config file approach felt more intuitive.

          I’m actually not sure why GRUB is such a popular boot loader that comes packaged with so many distros. Maybe GRUB does something more complex than just bootloading, but I don’t know if most users would care…

      • pmk ( pmk@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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        The last time my grub was broken was around 2012 when I ran Arch. After that I have rarely thought about grub at all.

        • krolden ( krolden@lemmy.ml ) 
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          OK so just dont learn the fundamentals I guess.

          Really lazy attitude

  • T (they/she) ( Templa@beehaw.org ) 
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    drops video link

    refuses to elaborate

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    • Estebiu ( Estebiu@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      Just switched to fedora after 4 years of archi. LUKS broke, the h264/h265 aren’t there, and it has redhat’s repo of flatpak selectioned by default rather than flathub. But hey, at least printers work OOTB!

      • ulkesh ( ulkesh@beehaw.org ) 
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        …and the installer is garbage.

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          • Trashboat ( Trashboat@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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            Both getting fixed with Fedora 41 luckily, DNF5 by default and a new installer they’ve been working on

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    • bad_news ( bad_news@lemmy.billiam.net ) 
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      • ArcaneSlime ( ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        I always just say “and google ‘what should I do after installing fedora’ and follow along except ‘fastest mirror=true’ don’t bother.”

        Seems to work fine so far. 'Swhat I did.

  • Onihikage ( Onihikage@beehaw.org ) 
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    I mainly recommend Universal Blue distros to newbies, like Bazzite or Aurora. The immutable nature more or less means users don’t have to worry about performing maintenance of system apps like they might on some distros, mostly don’t have to worry about dependencies, and are less likely to irreversibly break the system themselves or in an update.

    That said, these distros are Fedora-based, and I think that’s fine. No idea who out there is recommending Arch of all things.

    • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) 
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      It might be good in a few years but for now it is more of a experimental concept

  • Hellmo_luciferrari ( Hellmo_Luciferrari@lemm.ee ) 
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    I will always recommend people to research their choice of distro. Use the right tool for the job.

    What one person needs may differ from what another person needs. Take into account what the use case is for the machine you are using.

    I use Arch BTW but I don’t run Arch for any of my servers. I use Arch where it makes sense for me.

    I wouldn’t tell someone switching from Windows to just go balls to the wall and go for something blerding edge and arguably more maintenance or manual intervention needed.

    I will give my suggestions but always implore them to research what theyt3 looking for.

  • Responsabilidade ( BaalInvoker@lemmy.eco.br ) 
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    Agreed. There is no point recommend Arch for beginners. You need to have some knowledge before using Arch!

    Don’t get me wrong… Arch is a great system and it’s my distro of choice, however I’m on Linux for more then 10 years! For a completely beginner, easier distros, such Fedora and PopOS, should be the way to go.

  • Manmoth ( Manmoth@lemmy.ml ) BannedBanned
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    I’m not a programmer but I’ve been using linux for over 20 years. It’s crazy to me that someone who develops software for a living would not just run Windows but have never meaningfully ran linux. 🤔

  • visikde ( visikde@lemmings.world ) 
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    Looks like open suze is going to experience more corporate bullshyt
    The parent is suggesting the non corporate part is going to need to be renamed

    I lost interest in open suze after I was dead ended on version 15

    • floofloof ( floofloof@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Tumbleweed is a very good distro. I hope it survives the upcoming wave of BS. It probably will.

    • BCsven ( BCsven@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Supposedly Leap will move to whatever SUSE goes to. ALP or something? I lost track of names and options

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