- psvrh ( @psvrh@lemmy.ca ) 10•2 months ago
No, because a lot of city people live in places where they can’t charge cars, and–at least in Canada where we kiss the boots of landlords–no one’s forcing charging infrastructure multi-unit dwellings.
Electric cars aren’t for city dwellers, they’re for suburban homeowners.
- Someone ( @Someone@lemmy.ca ) 5•2 months ago
Most, if not all, of the new apartment complexes in my area heavily advertise they have EV charging on site. Problem is they usually only install 1 or 2 chargers for a complex that has parking for 50-100 cars. That sort of ratio is fine anywhere else, but it’s not a reliable option if you and your neighbours (who were also sold by that promise) all need to get to work in the morning.
- CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 3•2 months ago
Yeah, honestly the infrastructure is the most of the problem. Even in crazy cold, battery life drops but doesn’t disappear.
- phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 8•2 months ago
Nha, city dwellers could use bicycles most of the times
- CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 1•2 months ago
Depends how “city” you’re talking. If you’re in a large core, sure, but Canadian cities are sprawling enough you really need something faster in many urban areas (like public transit).
- phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 3•2 months ago
That’s why I said most of the times. Anything under 10km can easily be done by bike, especially once you get used to it.
I ride my bike to work every day and I do the ~5km on bike faster than by car, every single time
- a9249 ( @a9249@lemmy.ca ) 7•2 months ago
You simply cant long-haul an electric reliably yet. As of right now its a great SECOND car…
- navi ( @navi@lemmy.tespia.org ) 13•2 months ago
How often do you “long haul”? I’d argue an EV (with all of the perks of never going to a gas station again) is a great primary car and an ICE might make a decent SECOND car if you need to drive longer distances and if the charging infrastructure in your area is lacking.
- CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 3•2 months ago
Yeah, people can and do roadtrip in EVs. If you’re on a 4 hour trip a 20 minute charge is a minor inconvenience at worst, and a needed break at best.
- pbjamm ( @pbjamm@beehaw.org ) English2•2 months ago
What exactly qualifies as long haul? Average EV range is almost 300km which is pretty damn far before you need a charge-up. I live in a small town and my PHEV only goes 40km on a charge and I still only have to charge every other day most of the time.
- BastingChemina ( @BastingChemina@slrpnk.net ) 3•2 months ago
… in north America.
My experience in Europe where the EV infrastructure is more developed, long trip are not an issue. I don’t even plan my trip, I just go and charge when I need it.
- GBU_28 ( @GBU_28@lemm.ee ) English2•2 months ago
Edit, wording
Still a 8h driving day will require more charging time than gas refill time, regardless of how many chargers there are.
Acknowledged on your planning point, that’s a huge improvement.
- kent_eh ( @kent_eh@lemmy.ca ) English2•2 months ago
Still a 8h driving day will require more charging time than gas refill time,
Sure. Nobody disputes that.
But it’s a very small percentage of the population who drives like that.
And for much of the rest of the people, an EV can be a viable option.
- GBU_28 ( @GBU_28@lemm.ee ) English1•2 months ago
Right but north Americans get closer, much more regularly.
The point of my comment was to strip away any notion of region or everyday use, and only focus on energy… Density per hour driving, and the available habits of refueling via whatever source.
- Noxy ( @noxy@yiffit.net ) English1•2 months ago
guess I hallucinated that trip from Seattle to Vegas and back, huh
i was sure I saw myself in the battlebots audience last season, but I guess I hallucinated that too
i must be going crazy (or you’re wrong)
- a9249 ( @a9249@lemmy.ca ) 1•2 months ago
I never said you cant do it, but its going to suck and take forever.
- Noxy ( @noxy@yiffit.net ) English1•2 months ago
I’m telling you it didn’t.
- Kaboom ( @Kaboom@reddthat.com ) 4•2 months ago
The rare time where a headline asks a question and the answer is yes.
- Em Adespoton ( @adespoton@lemmy.ca ) 10•2 months ago
Funny… last I heard, farm equipment was going electric in a serious way.
Not all rural vehicles need to be long-haul.
- CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 2•2 months ago
And unless you need to go like 4 hours between possible stops EVs can long-hual. Even in the road-having parts of the North that’s not usually the situation, which is it sounds like the point of this article, which I will now read.
- Sonori ( @sonori@beehaw.org ) 8•2 months ago
Why do you think that? The whole article was on how the only barrier to long trips in rural Canada was being overcome and on how heavily the First Nations and other inhabitants of the far north have been pushing for access.