Conservatives are the people outside of the last frame encouraging the cops to step more on the neck region.

      • Not in this meme, but in the original. It implies that equality is not a good thing because surely the people calling for it haven’t taken into account that everyone is different and has different needs. It shows equity as being the same situation but tailored for everyone’s needs, and justice as being the same situation but with whatever created the inequality in the first place as having been removed.

        My issue is that people don’t use these words in this way, the people calling for equality always want to provide according to peoples needs, and to remove the things causing inequality.

  • Curiously in Economics 101 circa 1985, there was a whole section on wealth disparity, featuring a graph with a diagonal line (perfect distribution), and the plotted chart that bowed underneath that line, showing how much extra wealth the rich have over the poor. When the area between those two lines gets too large, it leads to all the shit we hate about capitalism: suffering, regulatory capture, eventually state failure and civil war (followed by famine and pestilence).

    The point of the section was don’t let this happen. And the state was supposed to do anything necessary to preserve a low disparity, or a pretty even distribution.

    And by a pretty even distribution something like the richest people having 100x the average wealth, and the poorest having 1/100 the average wealth, so there’s a significant amount of latitude.

    These days, the top three richest have more money than the bottom 160 million poorest in the US. So we are well beyond the civil-war and failing state points.

    But then the state is failing and civil war may be imminent.

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      Econ 101 is designed to obfuscate the real issues. Even talking about specific wealth distribution ratios is falling for the misframing of the issues that Econ 101 wants to lead people into with the pie metaphor. In the capitalist firm, the employer holds 100% of the property rights for the produced outputs and liabilities for the used-up inputs while workers qua employees get 0% of that. The entire division of the pie metaphor in Econ 101 is based around hiding this fact

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      Zizek has a joke like that:

      in Russia, members of the nomenklatura ride in expensive limousines, while in Yugoslavia, ordinary people themselves ride in limousines through their representatives.

    • used by their representatives in the Party

      Nah, mate. Not the USSR nor Cuba were like this. You simply couldn’t find wealth disparities in those countries as you can in modern capitalist ones, not even remotely close.

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    Every time I see equality vs equity I want to draw equality vs equity vs cooperation response, where in equality scenario one person sees match, in equity none and in cooperation all, where one is on shoulders of other and third is on two boxes.