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stabby_cicada ( stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net )  to solarpunk memes@slrpnk.net · 2 years ago

"but they sting/bite/are toxic/are icky" blah blah. nature does not owe you safety

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"but they sting/bite/are toxic/are icky" blah blah. nature does not owe you safety

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stabby_cicada ( stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net )  to solarpunk memes@slrpnk.net · 2 years ago
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  • UndercoverUlrikHD 🇳🇴 ( UndercoverUlrikHD@programming.dev ) 
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    OP:

    Credits to LittleFuzzyWasp

    • Alice ( Alice@beehaw.org ) 
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      Everyone thank OP for pollinating!

      • Comment105 ( Comment105@lemm.ee ) 
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        He’s a fucking wasp, he pollinates nothing but rot and death and misery.

        • Alice ( Alice@beehaw.org ) 
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          Death, misery, and fruits!

          • Comment105 ( Comment105@lemm.ee ) 
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            I’m perfectly fine in a world without waspcorpse figs.

    • Gsus4 ( Gsus4@mander.xyz ) 
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      Shilling for big waspa. I shoulda known.

  • verstra ( verstra@programming.dev ) 
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    Bees, wasps, ok, got it.

    But mosquitoes? I’be yet to find a biologist that would advocate for preservation of mosquitos. Kill them with fire.

    • Trainguyrom ( Trainguyrom@reddthat.com ) 
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      Ehem

    • JackbyDev ( JackbyDev@programming.dev ) 
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      That thing we do where we dump genetically modified mosquitoes into an area to make sterile mosquitoes and kill them off is awesome because the gene dies out after a few years. It’d essentially a temporary and mild extinction we can do. It’s amazing because we don’t even need to decide if it’s correct to kill off a species.

      • LibertyLizard ( LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net ) 
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        It’s also worth noting that this technique has been used primarily in urban areas with introduced species of mosquitoes. It would have different effects if done in wild ecosystems on native species.

    • LordGimp ( LordGimp@lemm.ee ) 
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      Nah that’s just female mosquitoes. Male mosquitoes are pollinators. Unfortunately, male mosquitoes need female mosquitoes.

    • Alice ( Alice@beehaw.org ) 
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      Aren’t they a major food source for other animals?

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        I would like to believe that say amphibians would adapt eating flies or other insects if mosquitoes are lacking.

  • morrowind ( morrowind@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Ok, fine, educate me, what do wasps contribute to the environment?

    • Gsus4 ( Gsus4@mander.xyz ) 
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      They eat the things that eat the things you eat.

      (e.g. aphids, caterpillars and mfcking thrips and leaf miners)

      PS: ok just one more: if bees are the plant matchmakers, wasps are broad spectrum pest exterminators.

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        Yeah… well the also eat my peaches and plums. So they eat my food, and that just ain’t cool. On top of that they set up shop by my front door and then sting me for just walking into MY house where I was letting them make a little room of their own. Not no more. Them bitchass mfers are back in hell where they belong, and my world is much better since I opened that portal for them.

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          yea, ok, we got rid of our peaches anyway, it wasn’t that bad :D but yea, keep boundaries, ok.

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      Figs.

      • amelore ( amelore@slrpnk.net ) 
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        That’s only some types of figs and one type of tiny wasp. Most figs we eat are virgin fruit.

    • JackbyDev ( JackbyDev@programming.dev ) 
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      They’re pollinators. A popular example is figs but you’ll see them in flowers just like bees.

  • SSJMarx ( SSJMarx@lemm.ee ) 
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    but mosquitoes though

    • todd_bonzalez ( todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee ) 
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      deleted by creator

      • Rooskie91 ( Rooskie91@discuss.online ) 
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        This is just plain false. Them and their eggs are an important food source for all kinds of aquatic animals and birds. Also, their larva remove contamins for water.

        Even logically this doesn’t make sense. What’s more likely: every insect is extremely important except one, or humans are wrong (as we so often are) about one species of insect?

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          The specific mosquito species that carries malaria isn’t all that important. Other mosquitos will occupy it’s niches. That’s the mosquito people want to eradicate

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        Sounds like massive human bias at play. Any source?

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        Bed bugs?

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          deleted by creator

          • Rawrx3 ( Rawrx3@lazysoci.al ) 
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            So what you’re saying is they should stay far away from civilization…

          • Ricky Rigatoni ( rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee ) 
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            who is putting their bed in a cave

            • fishbone ( fishbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      • Umbrias ( Umbrias@beehaw.org ) 
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        sources?

      • Mongostein ( Mongostein@lemmy.ca ) 
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        Don’t bats eat mosquitos?

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    What about ticks?

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      Yeah, fuck ticks and wasps

      • alcoholicorn ( alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml ) 
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        No, wasps are fine and help deal with invasive species, you just have to not bother them. Ticks on the other hand are bad for everyone involved and deserve to be dropped into a tornado of bleach. If that seems weirdly specific, it’s because some scientists did that, then wrote a paper encouraging others to drop ticks into bleach tornadoes.

  • seathru ( seathru@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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    I’m torn by spider wasps. I get irrationally angry when I see one of my wolf spider buddies getting dragged across the yard to their death.

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      That’s a sign of a healthy ecosystem. Predators are more likely to be keystone species. Spider wasps are predating on predators. You’ve got enough spiders to keep the bugs in control and wasps to take care of the extra spiders? I’m jealous!

    • NigelFrobisher ( NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone ) 
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      Wait, if spider wasps hunt spiders, what do wolf spiders hunt?

      • BlackDragon ( BlackDragon@slrpnk.net ) 
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        Believe it or not, cats.

  • ComradeSharkfucker ( sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Pest control guy killed the wasps on my balcony without asking :/ I don’t even use the balcony, they were just chillin. Now theres just a pile of corpses

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      I have to hide from the windows when pest control comes. I don’t wanna know what they do. I need to talk to my wife about it, I would’ve cancelled it otherwise.

  • KillingTimeItself ( KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) Banned
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    listen, i didn’t ask to be born with a functional aversion to isopods and insects in general, ok.

    I didn’t want this shit, but i got it anyway.

  • henfredemars ( henfredemars@infosec.pub ) 
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    Cordylobia anthropophaga can go die in a fire.

  • funbreaker ( funbreaker@kbin.earth ) 
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    I know they’re important. I’m also afraid of them because some members of my family have had adverse reactions to stings from wasps. I would like wasps to live happy, happy lives far, far away from me.

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    Bugs are cool as long as they are spiders who exclusively eat other bugs. And pill bugs.

  • MelodiousFunk ( MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net ) 
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    I haven’t killed a wasp in years. And that was only because it was building a nest inside my storm door just above eye level. Surprised the shit out of me because I barely saw the nest in the dark, struggled to change focus, and jumped back once I realized what I was seeing. Was not a fun encounter. It’s like, buddy, nobody was gonna be happy with that arrangement.

    • Pandantic [they/them] ( Pandantic@midwest.social ) 
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      I gotta kill a wasp nest soon (my bros, paper wasps) because they’re on the balcony and I’m trying to sell my house. Anyone know of a way to relocate them instead? No, I don’t have a bee suit. I feel bad too because I’ve seen a bunch of abandoned nests around the outside while cleaning my house, in perfectly acceptable places, but out in the open so they probably got prayed on and now they’re safe behind the fake shutters. 😭

  • cerement ( cerement@slrpnk.net ) 
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    get revenge by eating figs

  • BougieBirdie ( Bougie_Birdie@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    Is there a bee-ologist who can tell me if hornets are wasps, or are they their own thing?

    The wasps around here have always been pretty chill around me, but I get wary around hornets.

    • lenuup ( lenuup@reddthat.com ) 
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      So, first of all a bee-ologist can only help you marginally, as bees are in the same order as wasps, hornets and ants but relatively far removed from them. Hornets (genus vespa) and classic wasps (genus vespula) on the other hand share the same subfamily vespinae and are both considered wasps. This was a nice short dive into wikipedia. As I am a crystallographer any real entomologist can feel free to correct me.

      • SturgiesYrFase ( SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml ) 
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        My dad’s not a bee-ologist. He’s an apiarist(bee keeper). He is suuuuuper knowledgeable about wasps, hornets, and ants too because like me he’s a fuckin nerd!
        I have not a single thing other than that to add to the conversation! 🥳🥳🥳🥳

  • Ma10gan ( Ma10gan@slrpnk.net ) 
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    I stopped being scared of wasps after learning how to read their body language. Quiet buzzing and relaxed wings = calm, whereas loud buzzing and raised wings = mad. Plus, as long as you’re not allergic, a sting is just temporary pain, which definitely isn’t worth taking their life. Wasps are literally just animals, and we should be kind to them.

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