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- hardware@lemmy.ml
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/19143537
Last Wednesday was the review embargo for the Ryzen 5 9600X and Ryzen 7 9700X Zen 5 desktop processors that proved to be very exciting for Linux workloads from developers to creators to AVX-512 embracing AI and HPC workloads. Today the review embargo lifts on the Ryzen 9 9900X and Ryzen 9 9950X and as expected given the prior 6-core/8-core tests: these new chips are wild! The Ryzen 9 9900X and Ryzen 9 9950X are fabulous processors for those engaging in heavy real-world Linux workloads with excellent performance uplift and stunning power efficiency.
I have been very much enjoying my time testing out AMD’s Zen 5 wares from the Ryzen AI 300 series to the Ryzen 9000 series. The Ryzen 5 9600X / Ryzen 7 9700X were great for whetting my appetite while awaiting the Ryzen 9 9900 series. I had been very much enjoying them to the extent I was rather surprised myself last week when hearing of some reviewers not finding much excitement out of these new Zen 5 processors but typically those just looking at Windows gaming performance or running only a few canned/synthetic benchmarks. Following the Ryzen 5 9600X and Ryzen 7 9700X Linux testing when the Ryzen 9 9900X/9950X arrived, they were put immediately to my gauntlet of hundreds of Linux benchmarks and indeed living up to expectations.
- Lucy :3 ( @30p87@feddit.org ) 45•1 month ago
So … all reports of the CPUs performance being shit or way below expectations are just due to windows. As always.
- ryannathans ( @ryannathans@aussie.zone ) 11•1 month ago
Based and true
- Lucy :3 ( @30p87@feddit.org ) 11•1 month ago
I hate reviewers doing that. It’s like buying a sports car and rating it on what you are legally allowed to drive. It doesn’t make any sense. Also, windows performance will vary extremely depending on privacy settings, edition and country (eg. due to the EUs privacy regulations). A minimal Arch setup will ALWAYS be the same in every aspect. No new shit no one needs. No performance-wasting malware by default. Just an OS.
- shirro ( @shirro@aussie.zone ) English7•1 month ago
Reviewers like Gamers Nexus and Hardware Unboxed serve the Windows gamer market first. If you game on Windows you want to know the best price/performance for your purposes. Benchmarking kernel compiles and database transactions on Linux has zero relevance to a Windows gamer, particularly if Microsoft bugs cause the performance not to translate.
If we only looked at raw hardware performance and ignored platform support we might evaluate Nvidia only on Windows and determine they are the best graphics cards for Linux users which would be insane. Platform support matters to an audience.
- lud ( @lud@lemm.ee ) 4•1 month ago
The vast majority of sports cars never ever drive on a circuit so yes they should be tested on normal roads.
- wewbull ( @wewbull@feddit.uk ) English2•1 month ago
The argume t would be that their job is to advise buyers on the performance they would see. If most buyers are using windows and gaming then they should report windows gaming numbers.
However, there’s a lot of people who aren’t doing that and I’m not sure where we are meant to get our numbers from. Phronix I guess.
- ryannathans ( @ryannathans@aussie.zone ) 2•1 month ago
Yeah really should be testing on freebsd and minimal linux distros. Could much easier automate the entire test process then too
- narc0tic_bird ( @narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee ) 39•1 month ago
Something is wrong with the Windows scheduler and these new chips. The Linux results aren’t revolutionary, but they’re about what you’d expect from what AMD marketed in terms of IPC uplift.
More reviewers should benchmark hardware on multiple operating systems.
- Zikeji ( @Zikeji@programming.dev ) English25•1 month ago
The new gamer’s nexus review outlines some pretty specific prerequisites that AMD sent to fix performance on Windows, and AMD didn’t communicate those until they’d had the review units for days.
- narc0tic_bird ( @narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee ) 6•1 month ago
Yes, but even then the Phoronix results seem to suggest a larger gap in performance.
- phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 25•1 month ago
On a slight tangent, Phoronix is effin awesome
- thingsiplay ( @thingsiplay@beehaw.org ) 11•1 month ago
Michael has written more than 20,000 articles since 2004, plus he is the lead developer of the Phoronix Test Suite, Phoromatic, and OpenBenchmarking.org. This guy is a one man army!
- phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 2•1 month ago
Yeah it never ceases to amaze me how much work that guy does, it’s amazing
- ayaya ( @ayaya@lemdro.id ) English8•1 month ago
Phoronix is the ONLY website I disable uBlock Origin for.
- D_Air1 ( @D_Air1@lemmy.ml ) 2•1 month ago
I think I have so many little privacy tweaks over the years that even when I disable ublock origin on Phoronix. It still thinks I am using an ad blocker.
- krolden ( @krolden@lemmy.ml ) 1•1 month ago
Other than the anti adblock shit they use.
- phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 1•1 month ago
Do they? I’ve seen it, you can still browse it with an ad blocker. A pop-up will appear once in a while asking you to disable it, but there is the option to not pay and continue using it without ads.
- minimalfootprint ( @minimalfootprint@discuss.tchncs.de ) 4•1 month ago
That’s encouraging, 3ven though these models are out of my price range.
I’m planning to build a new system pretty soon. With Intel 13 an 14th Gen woes, AMD CPU releases and upcoming (Septmber) AM5 Motherboards, my planning is in constant flux.
- WhiteBerry ( @WhiteBerry@lemmy.ml ) English2•1 month ago
Can someone PLEASE do some reviews of the Strix Point CPUs running Linux on notebooks?