Asking as it seems nobody wants one based on the reception of the Pixel 9
I’d love to know what an “AI phone” actually means, given that AI is the hottest buzzword to slap on everything since “blockchain”.
Does it mean it just connects to chat gpt? Does it run a chatbot locally? Does it do image generation and deep fakes? Does it monitor all my activity to recommend stuff google now style? Does it create a realistic personality I’ll fall in love with like in the movie “her”? What does it mean‽
it means that it has hardware that can multiply matrices. Just like the gpu they already have can!
i remember seeing this in a lemmy post somewhere.
It doesn’t matter. It’s the latest buzzword, so it might induce clueless people to buy.
AI Phones or AI laptops are IMO a pure marketing invention.
Qualcomm laptops has some intriguing locally computed functions
So what? Every laptop has a gpu do you call them gpu laptops? Modern CPUs/SOCs accelerate a lot of things, this is just one more.
Nvidia called the ray tracing gpus RTX. Now all of them has that chip, all of them are called RTX. Same will happen here, in 5 years every cpu will be “AI” and no one will call it that way
True, they have some interesting features. But at least if they use Windows ML, these apps can run on any hardware. The only difference is the performance that can be achieved.
They said something in the video you linked that the developers could use a larger model thanks to the performance of the Snapdragon Chip. And with Davinci, they said that the performance with NPU is better than with GPU.
What I’m trying to say is that these things are not a new invention of 2024. NPUs were introduced at least 7 years ago (for ARM CPUs). The Microsoft APIs have been there for three years. The only new thing is the marketing hype around AI.
I for one would like a local AI assistant of some sort, but I’d also want to be in full control of which of my files, correspondences, locations, contacts, purchases and sex-toys the assistant is aware of on an item to item basis.
Of course that’s not going to happen because fuck my privacy.
Instead we’re going to be forcefed something extremely privacy-invasive, which will really just be a new vehicle for selling stuff to us that we don’t need and eventually it will leak all of the data.
Came here to say this. If I had an AI buddy that could do all sorts of stuff for me and talk about history all day with me on long drives while making sure I was perfectly safe and secure and basically be my best artificial friend…
I’d be riding that train.
you can.make a local ai homeserver and access it remotely from your phone.mahbe even tie it to some automation features idk
Your average smartphone user definitely can’t. I mght, but I strongly doubt it is worth the effort for now.
I will do it some time just for the coolness factor
sex-toys
obviously any ai girlfriend should have full control of all of the sextoys
Nope. It’s getting to the point I don’t even want a smartphone anymore. In fact, I just bought a “dumb” phone and am going to try using that as my daily driver for a month and see how it goes. Should be delivered this afternoon, and I’ll be starting the experiment tomorrow, hopefully.
I would if I’d be able to run my own models, it’d be better than having to connect to my server.
But AFAIK these features won’t be available to all developers, so I’m guessing only Google apps will be able to properly use the potential of the phone.
Investors/Shareholders. They cum each time they hear the word AI
Except for the people who know what they are doing. As it turns out a lot of actual business people looked at the insane amount of money going into AI and realized it would take a huge return plus potentially decades to break even.
You don’t need to understand “AI” to see that pouring billions into something that doesn’t have a business model could be a bad bet.
I want the original Google Now, because it actually worked.
That and Inbox were peak Google.
I held on to Inbox as long as I could, it was simply better.
You could use DDG or a lot of meta search engines :)
Does that work like Google now?
no, but it is what I use.
Not if I have to give up my privacy to use the AI features, which is currently the case for all or these devices.
I want a phone that doesn’t blast telemetry everywhere eating my battery. I want a phone that lasts a week between charges. I also want (most) apps to go away and stick to the web so my browser can keep me safe from them.
My favorite e-commerce experience has been at breweries and comedy clubs. Scan QR code, order on web page. Receive SMS to get back to page. Pay on page when done, close tab. Our exchange of information has completed. Maybe they send an email later, maybe not.
Versus apps tracking the status of your colon 24/7.
Not now. Maybe it’ll be useful once the bubble bursts and a few actually decent uses for something that could actually run on a phone emerge from the rubble and actually work.
At the moment I’m not seeing a whole lot overall that actually works unless you’re an expert using it for science or something like that.
i just want a phone that constantly spies on me and sends recordings back to mama cloud….
It depends on who you’re asking. The AI branding appeals to a lot of the more casual users I know, but it ultimately comes down to the actual functionality being added. It’s the first time in a long time that I’ve been interested in following smartphone developments. What our devices can actually do has been rather stagnant IMO.
Why can’t they use AI for something useful like better commands when using hands free while driving. They have all these gimmicks yet it cannot play a specific music playlist on spotify on shuffle without a very specific word for word command
Yes and no.
I could see a free public AI tool for medical or legal use being potentially extremely valuable. But it’ll never happen for the same reason self-driving cars will never happen: humans are allowed to be fallible but computers are not.
I could see an actually-functional AI assistant being potentially extremely valuable.
I am sure there are other potential use-cases but as of yet none of these things have materialized.
Their greatest value will be to pump-and-dump investors. And AI hardware producers. This craze has launched Nvidia into the stratosphere.
From my (small) friends circle, I haven’t heard any of them talk about getting one. However, it’s worth noting that these friends of mine are also not the ones who would buy new smartphones every year. They typically hold onto their phones for a few years and only switch when it seems like the phone isn’t performing as expected (e.g. battery draining too quickly; slowness in software actions; to name a few).
One question I do have is, what happens if you clean install an AOSP like GrapheneOS onto these newer Pixels phones? Does that remove the AI features completely?
