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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ndlug.org/post/1001830
Today, we’re happy to announce the launch of the 2GB Raspberry Pi 5, built on a cost-optimised D0 stepping of the BCM2712 application processor, and priced at just $50.
The new D0 stepping strips away all that unneeded functionality, leaving only the bits we need. From the perspective of a Raspberry Pi user, it is functionally identical to its predecessor: the same fast quad-core processor; the same multimedia capabilities; and the same PCI Express bus that has proven to be one of the most exciting features of the Raspberry Pi 5 platform. However, it is cheaper to make, and so is available to us at somewhat lower cost. And this, combined with the savings from halving the memory capacity, has allowed us to take $10 out of the cost of the finished product.
So, while our most demanding users — who want to drive dual 4Kp60 displays, or open a hundred browser tabs, or compile complex software from source — will probably stick with the existing higher memory-capacity variants of Raspberry Pi 5, many of you will find that this new, lower-cost variant works perfectly well for your use cases.
- Guenther_Amanita ( @Guenther_Amanita@slrpnk.net ) 30•29 days ago
I don’t see any reason to use a Raspi instead of an used thin client for selfhosting.
They use about the same energy, but the Mini-PC has x86, which has better software support, has more ports, and runs more stable.I have a RPI for my 3D-printer (Octoprint), and I will soon replace it with a “proper” PC, because it always crashes.
Raspberry Pis are good for very small appliances, but for anything more, they suck imo
- narc0tic_bird ( @narc0tic_bird@lemm.ee ) 2•29 days ago
I agree, once you factor in a power supply (or PoE hat), case and storage a Raspberry Pi really isn’t all that cheap anymore nowadays. Unless you have a project that specifically benefits from the GPIO pins or the form factor, just get a cheap barebones mini PC or a used one with RAM and SSD already included.
This will get you a system that’s way more powerful even if it’s a couple of years old (the Pi’s SoC is fairly weak) and I/O throughput is no contest, normally with at least a dozen PCIe lanes to use for NVMe storage or 10 gigabit network cards, if you so desire.
- nerdschleife ( @nerdschleife@lemm.ee ) English1•29 days ago
What’s a thin client?
- Guenther_Amanita ( @Guenther_Amanita@slrpnk.net ) 4•29 days ago
A small form factor PC. Think of a Mac Mini. Small, often not-high-performance, low-powered PCs that are often used in business environments.
I use one as my home server.
- pbjamm ( @pbjamm@beehaw.org ) English2•29 days ago
that is not a thin-client in the traditional sense, just a small form factor (1liter) pc. Thin clients were minimal spec machines that were made to connect to a much more powerful server somewhere on the network that did all the work. The thin client handled the display and I/O.
Mini PCs are generally a far better deal than a Pi and much more powerful for any kind general computing use.
- nerdschleife ( @nerdschleife@lemm.ee ) English1•29 days ago
Ah, okay. I thought OP was referring to a thinkpad/thinkcentre
- PhictiveHomeRowing ( @PhictiveHomeRowing@feddit.org ) 3•29 days ago
Think of a browser and nothing else. Computation happens somewhere else (except JS)
- Eugenia ( @eugenia@lemmy.ml ) English15•29 days ago
Not enough RAM to be honest (at least not to be useful in the near future). I ran an Emby/Jellyfin server with 180 GB of music (nothing else was running, not even the UI), and it ran out of RAM, and was swapping like crazy at 1 GB of RAM on my Rpi3. In this day and age, you need 2 GB of RAM for servers, but that won’t be enough within a couple of years (and that’s why I don’t suggest this new model with 2 GB of RAM). I personally would only get a new Raspberry Pi if it comes with 16 GB of RAM, so I can run a UI properly. You just can’t ever have enough RAM these days. Linux is using less RAM than Win11, but not by much these days. It’s growing too fast in requirements in the last 3-4 years.
- GolfNovemberUniform ( @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml ) 4•29 days ago
It’s growing too fast in requirements in the last 3-4 years.
I haven’t noticed it tbh.
- Eugenia ( @eugenia@lemmy.ml ) English8•29 days ago
3 years ago XFCe needed on Debian about 450 MB of RAM (on a clean boot). It now needs 850. And that’s not so much XFce’s fault, it’s all the other stuff underneath that have been growing too much too.
I mean, heck, Cosmic should not need more than 500 MB of RAM overall, having such a clean codebase. And yet it’s the heaviest of them all, at 2.5 GB (even Gnome/KDE boots at 1.3 GB on Debian). And it’s not a matter of optimization because it’s an alpha. That’s a cheap explanation. It’s just heavy. Just as much as Windows in terms of ram usage.
- GolfNovemberUniform ( @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml ) 4•29 days ago
I think it’s the “unused RAM is wasted RAM” technology. Try on a machine with no more than 2 Gb.
- marcie (she/her) ( @marcie@lemmy.ml ) 1•28 days ago
you should try damnsmalllinux, it had a revival recently. though the absolute smallest modern one is probably Slitaz? or alpine linux
though you can definitely set up debian to use less than 500 ram today, kde/gnome are kinda hogs
- rickyrigatoni ( @rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee ) 7•29 days ago
Raspi my dudes what the hell are you doing
- Possibly linux ( @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) English6•29 days ago
No thanks
There are so many issues with the RPI
- Qkall ( @Qkall@lemmy.ml ) 2•29 days ago
Genuinely curious, can you enlighten me… I haven’t kept up with rpi stuff… Since… hm 3b I think. But my pinephone pro just crapped out…so I was looking for options.
- Possibly linux ( @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) English2•29 days ago
Completely proprietary and overpriced.
- myersguy ( @myersguy@lemmy.simpl.website ) 1•29 days ago
Aren’t most CPU’s and chipsets proprietary? Not to mention all of the firmware blobs they require? What are some affordable, non-proprietary options?
- Possibly linux ( @possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) English2•29 days ago
Most devices will at least boot without proprietary software and a custom kernel. The RPI doesn’t do that because Broadcom.
- marcie (she/her) ( @marcie@lemmy.ml ) 5•28 days ago
half the time i end up using some sort of esp product that costs 2-5 dollars per unit and buy them bulk from china and daisy chain them
way better than a pi
- geneva_convenience ( @geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml ) 1•27 days ago
Is that $50 with the power adapter included?