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- Rentlar ( @Rentlar@lemmy.ca ) 35•15 days ago
Last week, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre called on Singh to pull out of the agreement.
Calling Singh’s statement a “media stunt” in a post on X, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre criticized the NDP leader for not saying whether he will vote non-confidence in the government at the earliest opportunity.
Conservatives moving goalposts constantly… colour me surprised until I’m blue in the face.
- voluble ( @voluble@lemmy.ca ) 17•15 days ago
Poilievre is making a string of very strange political gambles. Doing the rhyming nickname thing, trying to look like a cool badass, going on a string of unusual, foolish-looking, public attacks against rivals.
If the Conservatives don’t do as well as expected in the federal election, I wonder what’s next for them, from a leadership, attitude, and policy standpoint.
This will be Gen Z’s first real federal election to participate in. I’m very interested to see their impact. Convention is to assume that the young won’t vote, but, life and livelihood for the youth in Canada has never been worse, at least in my lifetime.
- Rentlar ( @Rentlar@lemmy.ca ) 12•14 days ago
If there’s a glimmer of hope I have despite the current >99% CPC majority projection, is that Canadian youth will look to the US, see how much the outlook changes between June and November to know what is possible with an engaged electorate and the appropriate leader to match.
What we’ve got to figure out here is either how we can remove FPTP or come out with a proper plan to vote strategically. Like look at this fucking “Leans Conservative” riding. A massive hunk of bullshit, I tell you.
https://338canada.com/59038e.htm
Edit: I missed a word
- jerkface ( @jerkface@lemmy.ca ) English4•14 days ago
Young men have really lost their way.
- Incandemon ( @Incandemon@lemmy.ca ) 2•14 days ago
Young Men have largely been abandoned.
There are many reasons for this, but it still hurts when you need help and kindly get told to get lost because we don’t have supports for men and boys.
- jerkface ( @jerkface@lemmy.ca ) English2•14 days ago
Ah yes, it’s society’s fault young men are swinging hard right into fascism like they always do. It’s society’s fault that toxic masculinity has become a political movement. If only we had allowed young men into women’s shelters, the next 20 years of repression and oppression could have doubtlessly been avoided. Stupid society.
- OutForARip ( @OutForARip@lemmy.ca ) 2•14 days ago
Young women are swinging the same into the hard right and fascism.
- jerkface ( @jerkface@lemmy.ca ) English2•13 days ago
No, not “the same”.
- TheDonkerZ ( @TheDonkerZ@lemmy.ca ) 2•13 days ago
Genuinely not sure why people are lining up to argue you on this. Its not even opinion, just facts.
If anything, it’s about time us white guys have to fucking struggle a bit. I’d just like a world where we can collectively pull our heads out our asses and stop voting the wrong people into power.
- voluble ( @voluble@lemmy.ca ) 2•13 days ago
I disagree. And also I don’t understand how your comment is relevant to the conversation. Making a non sequitur like this isn’t constructive. So, nice try but, you will not divide us!
- jerkface ( @jerkface@lemmy.ca ) English2•13 days ago
The comment was about GenZ voting! It’s super relevant!!
Young women are the only cohort that strongly supports the NDP. The difference between young men and young women is striking enough to be panic inducing.
- jerkface ( @jerkface@lemmy.ca ) English1•13 days ago
you will not divide us
I’m not even sure what this is meant to mean. What do you imagine my motives are? Who am I supposedly trying to divide?
- corsicanguppy ( @corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ) English1•14 days ago
I hope they will consider carefully before voting. We don’t need a lot of edgy, kneejerk mistakes.
- CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 12•14 days ago
To Poilievre it seems to be a game he needs to play as hard as possible to win. I bet he’s semi-open about his disregard for accuracy the moment the cameras are off.
Honestly, I blame the voters for not noticing.
- Avid Amoeba ( @avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ) 6•15 days ago
You have to give credit, this is top shelf troll work.
- Rentlar ( @Rentlar@lemmy.ca ) 8•15 days ago
I supposed you could say he set a trap and it sprung, but I think this more of the NDP taking a stand on the Rail strike arbitration issue.
- Avid Amoeba ( @avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ) 3•15 days ago
I wrote to my MP about that.
- CanadianCorhen ( @CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca ) 26•15 days ago
Defintly seems to be alluding to breaking the rail strike, which is a big deal.
I really worry this will result in a conservative government, however the Liberals cant take the NDP support for granted.
- Funderpants ( @FunderPants@lemmy.ca ) 13•15 days ago
I’m hopeful the LPC will maintain confidence through their term with NDP support, in absense of the formal agreement.
- CanadianCorhen ( @CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca ) 8•15 days ago
Agreed. I’m hoping this is just a shot across the bow.
- Rentlar ( @Rentlar@lemmy.ca ) 10•15 days ago
Strategically, this a move that I think shows to the Canadian labour bloc, that actions like what the Liberal minister did to the rail workers don’t go without consequences. Singh can harp on, consoling and hugging union leaders if he wants but rescinding the agreement is one big step above just talk that is within the NDP’s power.
- CanadianCorhen ( @CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca ) 4•14 days ago
for sure.
It definitly has a Catch 22, because I dont want to see a snap election, I think the conservitives have too much a chance of forming a government, and as rough as the Liberals can be, the conservitives would be far worse… but we can’t have the NDP just being unwavering support for the Liberals.
- wise_pancake ( @wise_pancake@lemmy.ca ) 9•15 days ago
Singh said the Liberals will not stand up to corporate interests and he will be running in the next election to “stop Conservative cuts.”
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
We are so fucked.
Edit: to be clear I just think Singh is not the leader to bring us an NDP government. I think they’ll end up gaining only a couple of seats, because his election performance has not been very good.
- Funderpants ( @FunderPants@lemmy.ca ) 6•15 days ago
I’d have much preferred to see the agreement last until next year. Finish at least getting the senate bills passed, give Trudeau another year of appointing liberal and, basically, not conservative senators.
- Sundial ( @Sundial@lemm.ee ) 9•15 days ago
Hopefully that will encourage voters to see them as a viable alternative to Liberals and Conservatives.
- tleb ( @tleb@lemmy.ca ) 6•15 days ago
Singh had many reasonable opportunities to do this over the last few years, but finally pulls the rip cord when the Conservatives are polling way ahead? What the fuck? He’s such a useless piece of shit, why do the NDP keep him around
- m0darn ( @m0darn@lemmy.ca ) 15•15 days ago
It’s because of the rail labour dispute. The NDP can’t/won’t be party to cutting down unions.
- rand_alpha19 ( @rand_alpha19@moist.catsweat.com ) 6•15 days ago
Yeah, I thought selecting him for leader was bad years ago, but it’s obvious now that he can’t really do much of anything. Guess we’d better prep for 4 years of conservative austerity since our electoral system is broken.
- Funderpants ( @FunderPants@lemmy.ca ) 13•15 days ago
We will be lucky to get away with 4 years. A generation of young men is being swayed conservative in the smoke pits of the internet and I’m worried we’ll suffer a lost decade of governance by bumper sticker weirdos.
- kbal ( @kbal@fedia.io ) 5•15 days ago
Doing it when the Liberals are in really bad shape improves the odds of the NDP winning, up from 0.0 to 0+ε.
- wise_pancake ( @wise_pancake@lemmy.ca ) 4•15 days ago
It kinda looks like PP goaded him into it with the timing.
- n2burns ( @n2burns@lemmy.ca ) 9•15 days ago
I think it’s less of “goaded him into it” and more of “predicted it”. As others have pointed out, messing with unions is a red-line for the NDP.
- jerkface ( @jerkface@lemmy.ca ) English1•14 days ago
Jagmeet is decent. Its the voters who are complete shit.
- psvrh ( @psvrh@lemmy.ca ) 2•14 days ago
To paraphrase Terry Pratchett, once you think the problem is that you have the wrong kind of people, you shouldn’t be a leader
- jerkface ( @jerkface@lemmy.ca ) English1•13 days ago
And how does that apply to me?
- psvrh ( @psvrh@lemmy.ca ) 1•13 days ago
You’d said the problem was voters. That’s an entirely wrong way to look at politics.
- jerkface ( @jerkface@lemmy.ca ) English1•13 days ago
Obviously I was being glib. But even if I weren’t, I am not intending to be a leader, so Pratchet is not talking about me.
Having said that, voters have dynamic, even mutable qualities, and those are exactly the qualities that determine elections. There is an entirely reasonable approach to politics that is about educating and informing voters so that they can make more rational decisions. There is a very effective approach to politics that encourages and exploits voter disenfranchisement. Yes, voters can be the problem.
- kbal ( @kbal@fedia.io ) 4•15 days ago
the video was scheduled to go live online at 1 p.m. Wednesday.
Seeing this at quarter past the hour I went to look for it at the ndp.ca website. It does not appear to be there. I followed the link to their youtube channel. Not there either. Presumably it’s on fucking twitter or something. Please do better, NDP.
Anyway, the video can be seen at cpac.
- Avid Amoeba ( @avidamoeba@lemmy.ca ) 1•15 days ago
Oh Jagmeet…