Woodworking partner: for when you want no garage space, to be frequently annoyed by loud noises, and to have half of your furniture and bowls made of epoxy. We don’t need another table, Jeffrey! We already have six. Our home only has three rooms that could fit a table already! You have a sickness! I don’t care that it’s in the shape of a whale!
- Dr. Wesker ( @wesker@lemmy.sdf.org ) English13•14 days ago
One of my good friends got really deep into the woodworking hobby. His house looks like a cowboy resides there.
- RBG ( @RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de ) 45•14 days ago
Shit, I have to ask. What in the world is Manosphere?
- vga ( @vga@sopuli.xyz ) 42•14 days ago
Andrew Tate and all that shit.
- RBG ( @RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de ) 22•14 days ago
Fuck, eww. Thanks for letting me know. Happy to see its so low but better if that weren’t a thing at all.
- Ephera ( @Ephera@lemmy.ml ) 14•14 days ago
The best explanation I’ve heard for it, which also dips into the why, is:
Once upon a time, there was the patriarchy. For men, this meant they had the purpose of being the breadwinner, for the price of massive mental health issues, since they were never allowed to show weakness.
Nonetheless, a whole culture and identity evolved surrounding this struggle, with beards and alcohol and it being totallynot an expression of missing personal closenesscool to have sex with lots of women.Then came along feminism with the ultimate goal of fixing this. It didn’t intend to take anything away from men, but it kind of requires allowing women to also be breadwinners, which slims down the purpose of men.
Suddenly, it’s potentially not enough to bring home money, you need to help out in the household and not be a complete mental health wreck. You need to be able to show weakness.And while this is great for many men, it’s also where a lot of men get kind of left behind. They’ve lost their manly identity or their breadwinner purpose.
And that’s where the whole mansophere stuff comes in.
People telling you everything is exactly like 50 years ago, and you should be wearing a beard and drinking alcohol and having sex with lots of women.
In a weird sense, this is good for men. But the whole community is also massively misogynistic, and blaming feminism rather than appreciating it as a potential proper solution, and of course, you’ve got right-wing “thoughtleaders”, i.e. white dudes with microphones, to round it all of.
We desperately need better solutions for these men.- Elise ( @xilliah@beehaw.org ) 7•14 days ago
Patriarchy is still screwing everyone over today, including men like it always has.
- absGeekNZ ( @absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz ) English3•13 days ago
Except the beard thing…some of us get a terrible rash if we shave.
That and the smoothness only lasts an hour or so…what is the fucken point. I wish there was some kind of check box option when entering your teens:
- [ ] have beard, but if you shave you get itchy and red
- [x] just can’t grow a beard
- Ephera ( @Ephera@lemmy.ml ) 2•13 days ago
Oh yeah, I’m not saying anyone who has a beard or drinks alcohol or even has sex with lots of women is immediately participating in that culture.
That culture is more about celebrating these things on a basis of them supposedly being manly. They will of course mention that beards may look good or that it’s just good to not need to shave every day, for various reasons, but if women could also grow a majestic beard, then this wouldn’t be part of their identity/culture.
And yeah, I do absolutely agree on that chatbox. In my case, my beard grows so quickly that it’s just tiresome to shave it all the time. But it’s so patchy that it looks awful and it never stops being itchy for me.
If I could’ve just told my body to not bother with the beard thing, I would have saved about a month of my lifetime that I spent shaving.
My guess is listening to bro podcasts and bro websites.
- FrederikNJS ( @FrederikNJS@lemm.ee ) 1•13 days ago
If you like rabbit holes: https://youtu.be/BgO25FTwfRI
Me:
- apotheotic (she/her) ( @apotheotic@beehaw.org ) English18•14 days ago
I’m genuinely sickened that 3%+ of respondents consider manosphere attractive
- Elise ( @xilliah@beehaw.org ) 10•14 days ago
They probably thought it was referring to spherical man butts
- apotheotic (she/her) ( @apotheotic@beehaw.org ) English3•14 days ago
Who doesn’t love a good butt
- Elise ( @xilliah@beehaw.org ) 1•13 days ago
I for one despise butts. Especially spherical ones 🤫
- apotheotic (she/her) ( @apotheotic@beehaw.org ) English4•13 days ago
And here I thought we were friends, and now you’re telling me you hate an aspect of me 😢😂
- Elise ( @xilliah@beehaw.org ) 2•13 days ago
Ehhh, take this upvote
- TonyTonyChopper ( @TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz ) 3•14 days ago
I never heard of manosphere before this post
- AngryishHumanoid ( @AngryishHumanoid@reddthat.com ) 17•14 days ago
90% think archery is an attractive hobby. Really.
I did a informal survey at work a few months ago where we as a team play archery or play bowling. And 100% of the women staff said archery and then talked about Hunger Games.
- vga ( @vga@sopuli.xyz ) 5•14 days ago
I thought it might’ve been due to Hawkeye.
- mysticpickle ( @mysticpickle@lemmy.ca ) 8•14 days ago
Evolutionarily speaking this is attractive because people that are good archers are good hunters, can provide for a family, and also drive off marauding Mongols.
- Elise ( @xilliah@beehaw.org ) 4•14 days ago
Sometimes I wish I could carry a bow and just shoot the marauders.
- Senseless ( @Senseless@feddit.org ) 5•14 days ago
Huh? I think archery is a pretty cool hobby. Then again I might be “slightly” biased…
- dwindling7373 ( @dwindling7373@feddit.it ) English4•14 days ago
You tend to kinda get very strong doing that so…
- Akasazh ( @Akasazh@feddit.nl ) 13•13 days ago
I feel like the linel between ‘reading’ and ‘comic books’ is a bit unfair.
I mean there plenty of written stuff that’s demonstrably worse than anything in comics.
- I Cast Fist ( @ICastFist@programming.dev ) English4•14 days ago
And comics that are absolutely amazing, like Sandman and Persepolis
- nik9000 ( @nik9000@programming.dev ) 2•13 days ago
My favorite lately is Bea Wolf, a retelling of Beowolf. Oh! And Pebble and Wren.
- zeekaran ( @zeekaran@sopuli.xyz ) English2•13 days ago
Sandman isn’t flawless but it’s the best stuff not by Moore. Fables (the first story that ends around 12-16 at least) was a fun read after finishing Sandman.
I think they should’ve polled superhero comics separately from comics in general.
- childOfMagenta ( @childOfMagenta@lemm.ee ) 9•13 days ago
MTG?
Shouldn’t she be way lower?
- RiverGhost ( @aeki@slrpnk.net ) 9•14 days ago
So I gather this not about the hobbies themselves being attractive but about what’s attractive for a partner to have as a hobby, or even specifically a male partner? What was the question exactly?
- OldWoodFrame ( @OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee ) 8•12 days ago
“Arguing online” is unattractive? It’s actually one of the more relevant signs of intelligence if one can state their points coherently. In this 3-part essay I will…
- LoudWaterHombre ( @loudWaterEnjoyer@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 2•12 days ago
You absolute tool noone wants to argue online, why should anyone engage in an inrelevant time wasting discussion???
- squid_slime ( @squid_slime@lemm.ee ) 2•12 days ago
I don’t like your tone Mr
- aphonefriend ( @aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 2•12 days ago
Keep going, I’m almost there.
- FUBAR ( @FUBAR@lemm.ee ) 1•12 days ago
So about elon
- Goodman ( @Goodman@discuss.tchncs.de ) 6•13 days ago
According to who?
- Bongo_Stryker ( @Bongo_Stryker@lemmy.ca ) 5•13 days ago
I got the top 5 of the attractive list and only arguing online from the other list, so I think that’s cancelled out.
Edit: checked with wife, she says graph is accurate.
- mydoomlessaccount ( @mydoomlessaccount@infosec.pub ) 5•13 days ago
Makeup? Y’all don’t want a dude that likes to look good?
- Lumelore (She/her) ( @Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English5•12 days ago
Why is makeup so low? To me that’s super attractive if a guy likes wearing makeup because it shows that he is secure in his masculinity and probably isn’t a misogynistic asshole, but maybe I’m just into feminine men?
(Also I’m not saying that if guys don’t like wearing makeup then they’re insecure, it’s just that makeup is a visible thing so it’s easier to tell that they’re most likely more secure)
- KillingTimeItself ( @KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•12 days ago
Why is makeup so low? To me that’s super attractive if a guy likes wearing makeup because it shows that he is secure in his masculinity and probably isn’t a misogynistic asshole, but maybe I’m just into feminine men?
i really hate makeup, it’s nothing other than an artistic expression of what you think you look good as.
which if you want to do it, i’m not stopping you i have better things to care about. But it’s also not that deep, there is no connection between men wearing makeup and being secure in their masculinity, there is a connection between men who won’t wear makeup because it’s bad for their masculinity and their insecurity in masculinity.
I feel like this is like saying “men who shave their faces are secure in their masculinity”
- Lumelore (She/her) ( @Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English1•12 days ago
Did you see what I put in paren at the bottom?
Also I strongly disagree with the statement that there is no connection between men wearing makeup and them being secure in their masculinity.
… there is a connection between men who won’t wear makeup because … their insecurity in masculity.
This is exactly why I like men who are into makeup, because they’re not going to be insecure in their masculinity most likely.
For me this comes from having lots of bad experiences with masculine presenting men and it takes me a long time to feel safe around a guy, but if they are more feminine presenting I feel much safer around them because all the feminine guys I know have never done anything to make me feel unsafe.
- KillingTimeItself ( @KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•12 days ago
Did you see what I put in paren at the bottom?
yeah, i just have problems with people drawing super wide and broad conclusions like this, even if they’re generally true.
Also I strongly disagree with the statement that there is no connection between men wearing makeup and them being secure in their masculinity.
i think there’s a correlation there, but i don’t think it’s directly linked. It’s not an additive thing, insecurity in masculinity is a reductive thing. It removes aspects from someones life, that’s why it’s an insecurity.
The more accurate statement here is that men who are secure in their masculinity are more likely to wear makeup.
For me this comes from having lots of bad experiences with masculine presenting men and it takes me a long time to feel safe around a guy, but if they are more feminine presenting I feel much safer around them because all the feminine guys I know have never done anything to make me feel unsafe.
that makes sense, but i think this is probably a whole other topic of discussion, i was mostly just annoyed by the way it was worded lol.
- KillingTimeItself ( @KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English4•12 days ago
i’m sorry blacksmithing? I mean it’s cool as fuck, don’t get me wrong, but have you seen that shit? it’s the LEAST sexy hobby by far.
Also, traveling is not a hobby, stop pretending it is. That’s like saying veganism is a hobby.
anyway, my main hobbies consist of playing minecraft or factorio like an autist, fucking around with linux, or philosophy, so i probably score, somewhere…
- Flocklesscrow ( @Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee ) English3•12 days ago
What’s with the anti blacksmithing sentiment? Most people just find someone’s genuine passion to be an attractive quality, wherever their interests lie.
- KillingTimeItself ( @KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•12 days ago
nothing wrong with it, it just isn’t sexy or hot. The only “sexy” part of it is one of the less involved parts of it.
You still have to do a lot of cleanup and build work after the fact.
I mean i literally said as much in the comment lol
My wife loved the idea that I was into wood cutting. What she didn’t realize was when I said woodcutting, I meant I studied the blade and practiced chopping wood with my anime sword.
- KillingTimeItself ( @KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English3•12 days ago
based
- chatokun ( @chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 1•12 days ago
I wonder if hobbies here may mean what people talk about primarily, because some aren’t hobbies unless it’s all you do or something. Like arguing online.
- KillingTimeItself ( @KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•12 days ago
that might be the case, but i think this list is just… Poorly compiled to be honest.
- skyacorns ( @skyacorns@lemmynsfw.com ) 3•13 days ago
I am one of the 10% of women who find having a porn hobby attractive