This article goes into more detail about how these new measures will actually work compared to the blog post earlier this year from Google. Namely:
- Enabling the OEM unlocking setting will no longer prevent FRP from activating.
- Bypassing the setup wizard will no longer deactivate FRP. FRP restrictions will apply until you verify ownership of the device by signing in.
- Adding a new Google account is blocked.
- Setting a lock screen PIN or password is blocked.
- Installing new apps is blocked.
- KickMeElmo ( @KickMeElmo@sopuli.xyz ) English49•11 days ago
Sounds like good ideas that’ll be a pain in the ass for innocent power users.
- philodendron ( @philodendron@lemdro.id ) English14•11 days ago
Until they sign back in to their own phone…? How is that a pain?
- piracysails ( @piracysails@lemm.ee ) English11•11 days ago
Not eveyrone has or needs a google or any system-wide account to use their phones.
- Jrockwar ( @Jrockwar@feddit.uk ) English6•11 days ago
This assumes everything works fine. It’s probably an edge case, but on my Nexus 6P an update somehow messed with my encryption keys, and the screen lock pattern that I’d used for over a year stopped getting recognised. I can’t remember the solution but I vaguely remember having to factory reset. Whatever the solution was, it wasn’t too different to what a thief would do… I was bypassing the screen lock after all.
- ReversalHatchery ( @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) English4•11 days ago
because I want to get rid of google, and not use or even have a google account anymore
- Markaos ( @Markaos@lemmy.one ) English6•10 days ago
If you don’t sign into a Google account, you will never arm this mechanism at all.
- BaroqueInMind ( @BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one ) English6•11 days ago
Then don’t buy their devices? What a novel solution.
- ReversalHatchery ( @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) English4•10 days ago
Who’s devices? This is not a manufacturer dependent thing.
Android is useful without any google built-in software, and unfortunately it’s not affordable to avoid having a smartphone in today’s world.
If you wanted to say to not buy Android devices, all I can say is you are very ignorant. And ignorance is a lot of things but novel.- BaroqueInMind ( @BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one ) English1•10 days ago
I do not know if your being sarcastic, ignorant, or lazy, but there are other companies out there that produce cheap phones with operating systems other than android.
- Baggins ( @baggins@beehaw.org ) English2•9 days ago
cheap phones with operating systems other than android.
Who please? All I know of are Apple, or Nothing Phone- they’re not cheap IMO.
Genuinely interested though, I’d love to deGoogle.
- BaroqueInMind ( @BaroqueInMind@lemmy.one ) English2•9 days ago
Since you asked nicely:
https://pine64.com/product-category/pinephone/
https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/
https://shop.puri.sm/shop/librem-5/
https://www.kaiostech.com/explore/devices/
https://shop.jolla.com/details/91eb91d3-c3de-41d0-b3c0-7075a339112d/
There’s a reason iOS and Android OS both dominate the market: they do literally everything all these phones attempt to do but better in pretty much every single way, including the ability to easily de-Google ironically.
- jbk ( @jbk@discuss.tchncs.de ) English3•11 days ago
Looks like they “just” have to stop signing in with a Google account, and may have to enable adb and install apps using it / e.g. Shizuku
- shortwavesurfer ( @shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip ) English27•11 days ago
Okay, according to the article, this functionality will only activate after you have signed into a Google account for the first time on the device. So, at least for those of us who use custom software such as lineage OS, that won’t matter since we don’t put a Google account on the device to begin with in a lot of cases. A lot of us boot the phone for the first time, skip the entire setup wizard as fast as possible without signing in or any of that stuff, and then immediately enable OEM unlocking and flash the lineage or whatever software.
I also imagine FRP will be ignored by custom ROMs even if the secret data is set.
- shortwavesurfer ( @shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip ) English6•11 days ago
Well, that won’t matter unless it’s a brand new phone or has been properly erased because you won’t be able to install lineage anyway unless one of those two conditions are met.
- AbsoluteChicagoDog ( @AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee ) English22•11 days ago
“Theievs” definitely not targeting power users…
- Rikj000 ( @Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de ) English14•11 days ago
The more I hear about Android 15,
the less excited I get for it…- ReversalHatchery ( @ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org ) English4•11 days ago
for me it’s been the same since 8. sure there are some good changes, but generally it’s forced restrictions upon more forced restrictions, and I hate it
- istanbullu ( @istanbullu@lemmy.ml ) English11•11 days ago
Google is making Android worse and worse in each release.
- jbk ( @jbk@discuss.tchncs.de ) English3•11 days ago
This could still be bypassed by flashing a new OS that deliberately messes up the userdata wipe-persisting secrets. Well idk if there’s a way to prevent that, but I guess really needy and tech-savvy people could recover lost devices that way
- UnbalancedFox ( @UnbalancedFox@lemmy.ca ) English1•9 days ago
And for those who dont install GApps…?
Still neat I guess.