I cringe every time I hear another guy refer to women like this
- odium ( @odium@programming.dev ) 97•4 days ago
It’s fine if it’s consistent imo.
Men and women - 👍
Males and females - 👍
Boys and girls - 👍
Guys and gals - 👍
Men and females - 👎
Men and girls - 👎
Men and chicks - 👎
- salvaria ( @salvaria@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 64•4 days ago
Seadogs and wenches - 🏴☠️
- kittenzrulz123 ( @kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 52•4 days ago
Comrades - ☭
- huquad ( @huquad@lemmy.ml ) English22•4 days ago
Tamales and females
- LallyLuckFarm ( @LallyLuckFarm@beehaw.org ) 21•4 days ago
Guys and Dolls - 👐 (jazz hands)
- Kalysta ( @Kalysta@lemm.ee ) 9•3 days ago
The ONLY time it’s fine is if it’s in a medical report or scientific paper. Written by actual doctors or scientists. And it is done to dehumanize the subject to make it easier for, say, a medical examiner to write a report without breaking down.
Using male and female for people is inheritantly dehumanizing, and that’s only ok in very specific circumstances.
- 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️ ( @Kolanaki@yiffit.net ) English13•4 days ago
Men and chicks - 👎
What about “dudes and chicks?”
- I_am_10_squirrels ( @I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org ) 6•4 days ago
Dudes and dudes
- _NoName_ ( @JayDee@lemmy.ml ) 2•3 days ago
Folks 👨🌾
- LillyPip ( @LillyPip@lemmy.ca ) 1•3 days ago
Dicks and chicks. Like the band.
- li10 ( @li10@feddit.uk ) English5•4 days ago
Bros and broads - 🤔
- FartsWithAnAccent ( @FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io ) 57•4 days ago
They sound like Ferengi lmao
“hUmOn FeEeMaLe!”
- Miles O'Brien ( @SARGE@startrek.website ) English28•4 days ago
Don’t even get me started on how the average right-wing/incel/pilled male is basically already an honorary ferengi…
Sharpen their teeth and give them some giant lobes and you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. Some of them even shave their heads already…
- ninjaphysics ( @ninjaphysics@beehaw.org ) 1•3 days ago
So glad someone other than me is pointing this out!
Dead
- FartsWithAnAccent ( @FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io ) 3•3 days ago
F
- SaltyIceteaMaker ( @SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml ) 19•3 days ago
Well depends on context i guess. Like saying “my women teacher” just doesn’t sound as good as “my female teacher”
- watersnipje ( @watersnipje@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 24•3 days ago
That’s an adjective, that’s fine. It’s about using “females” as a noun.
- Norah - She/They ( @princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English14•3 days ago
Yep. Same with saying “a Trans Woman” versus “a Trans”.
- setVeryLoud(true); ( @isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca ) 12•3 days ago
“the transes”
- eleitl ( @eleitl@lemm.ee ) 7•3 days ago
A trans what? m2f? f2m?
- Droechai ( @Droechai@lemm.ee ) 9•3 days ago
Transformers, both the electrical and cybertronian variant
- alx ( @alx@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 2•3 days ago
Does it matter, tho? Does every trans person need to be defined by their assigned gender? Do they need to be inserted in a binary system?
- setVeryLoud(true); ( @isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca ) 1•1 hour ago
I am a genderless blob :3
The most offensive part is using the noun as plural when it’s meant to be singular, as in your example
I sometimes hear furries mess up and refer to women as “female humans” or something along those lines, but that’s mainly because furries usually think in “male/female” instead of “man/woman” (or at least all the ones I’ve met seem to). For an example, “Cat-woman” can be kinda ambiguous and (at least imo) sounds kinda odd since “woman” is usually exclusive to female humans. In this example, are we talking about a woman who’s obsessed with cats, a woman who is a cat (a female feline with human features), an anime cat girl (a woman with cat features), or a DC Comics character (a woman who dresses up like a cat)?
Otherwise though, yeah. Yeah, especially, especially when someone refers to women as “females” as in “check out those females over there”. That’s creepy. Even furries would rather say something like, “check out those gals over there”, regardless of context.
Edit: also, does this hypothetical person say “males” too, or is it “man/female”? “Man/female” is a massive red flag.
- NekoRogue ( @NekoRogue@slrpnk.net ) 35•4 days ago
As a woman who is bothered by the “females” thing, “female humans” doesn’t sound bad to me. It’s because “female” is used as an adjective here. It’s the same reason “black women” sounds fine, but “blacks” sounds bad. It’s reducing someone to their gender only, as if they’re not humans, too. It feels otherimg.
- deadbeef79000 ( @deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz ) 8•4 days ago
Thanks for writing that out. I’d never quite groked why it (and similar wording) sounded wrong: reducing a person to an adjective.
- Godort ( @Godort@lemm.ee ) 15•4 days ago
but that’s mainly because furries usually think in “male/female”
I wonder if that’s because that’s how they’re tagged on e621, or if they’re tagged that way because furries already referred to them in those terms.
Whatever you do, don’t google male chicks. God the food industry is awful
- Amputret ( @Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 14•3 days ago
I had a woman boss who would always refer to women as female (like “you know the manager of that department is a female?!”). I’m still not sure how I feel about it.
- Tamkish ( @Tamkish@programming.dev ) 11•3 days ago
Gaslight Gatekeep Womanboss
- Amputret ( @Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 4•3 days ago
I know it’s a really awkward phrasing, but “I had a boss, who was a woman…” sounded even more awkward to me than just “woman boss” 🤷♂️.
- flying_sheep ( @flying_sheep@lemmy.ml ) 2•2 days ago
I had a female boss.
Adjective is fine, using it as noun is icky
- Hossenfeffer ( @Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk ) English3•3 days ago
- Vilian ( @Vilian@lemmy.ca ) 2•3 days ago
Urg, i get second hand embarrassment everytime i hear/read it, i’s disgusting lol
- elidoz ( @elidoz@lemmy.ml ) 5•4 days ago
counterpoint:
man and men, just like woman and women sound the same when speaking
male and males, female and females is clearer
- xkbx ( @xkbx@startrek.website ) 39•4 days ago
Just say menses and womenses when in the plural
- unexposedhazard ( @unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ) 20•4 days ago
Gollum speak nice
I love this. I might actually start doing this unironically.
Lol, menses.
- elidoz ( @elidoz@lemmy.ml ) 5•4 days ago
I’m sorry, but I did the thing where I write a comment and then delete it because I assume no one cares about my opinion
since you replied though, I should make it clear what I said to give context
I said that man and men, as well as woman and women, sound the same when speaking. male and males, female and females, make a clearer distinction
- Emily (she/her) ( @EmilyIsTrans@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 17•4 days ago
counterpoint:
I don’t want you to call me female or male. Creeps call me female and bigots call me male.
- pmc ( @pmc@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 8•4 days ago
how do you pronounce man/men/woman/women? man and men might be confusable but woman and women are very different pronunciations
- lengau ( @lengau@midwest.social ) 5•4 days ago
Enunciate.
- TwilightKiddy ( @TwilightKiddy@programming.dev ) English4•4 days ago
Isn’t it /mæn/ and /mɛn/, /ˈwʊm ən/ and /ˈwɪm ɪn/? Can be a bit hard to differenciate in the first case, but the second pair is very different.