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efficient game design rule

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efficient game design rule

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  • Zwiebel ( Zwiebel@feddit.org ) Banned from community
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    That can happen with any program, and should be a simple fix on the dev side

    • mogoh ( mogoh@lemmy.ml ) 
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      It is also something that can happen easily. Just program to log an error and then the error happens unexpected every frame.

      • I Cast Fist ( ICastFist@programming.dev ) 
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        To happen every frame without crashing the game, it’s more likely a warning ⚠️ “Warning, the texture is named 1.png instead of 1.PNG”

  • yetAnotherUser ( yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    Ok, but the second tweet is a bit redundant

    Like what else would a .log file be? A video file? A Word Document? An executable?

    Do you really need to inspect the properties to be told: “This .log file is certainly containing text. Thank you for installing Windows 10. Save 5% on your Office 365 subscription with code ‘ILOVEMICROSOFT’”

    • pixeltree ( pixeltree@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      You should have rolling log files of limited size and limited quantity. The issue isn’t that it’s a text file, it’s that they’re not following pretty standard logging procedures to prevent this kind of thing and make logs more useful.

      Essentially, when your log file reaches a configured size, it should create a new one and start writing into that, deleting the oldest if there are more log files than your configured limit.

      This prevents runaway logging like this, and also lets you store more logging info than you can easily open and go through in one document. If you want to store 20 gb of logs, having all of that in one file will make it difficult to go through. 10 2 gb log files is much easier. That’s not so much a consumer issue, but that’s the jist of it.

      • yetAnotherUser ( yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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        Fully agree, but the way it’s worded makes it seem like log being a text file is the issue. Maybe I’m just misinterpreting intent though.

        • meeshen ( meeshen@vegantheoryclub.org ) 
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          200GB of a text log file IS weird. It’s one thing if you had a core dump or other huge info dump, which, granted, shouldn’t be generated on their own, but at least they have a reason for being big. 200GB of plain text logs is just silly

      • Toribor ( Toribor@corndog.social ) 
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        As a sysadmin there are few things that give me more problems than unbounded growth and timezones.

        • biscuitswalrus ( biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone ) 
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          Printers. Desk phones. Wmi service crashing at full core lock under the guise of svchost.

    • Alice ( Alice@beehaw.org ) 
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      I thought they were just trying to hammer home how wild it was for the file to get that big, since it’s just a text file.

      • stebo02 ( stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        deleted by creator

    • (⬤ᴥ⬤) ( nicknonya@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) OP
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      if you assume the second post has ulterior meaning it could be that someone might not know what a crash log is, but most people who have interacted with computers at least once would be at least vaguely familiar window’s file description and understand that text file icon + >200 gb size is not normal

      this is, of course, a rather big assumption.
      most people don’t put that much though in a post and expecting them to will make your online experience a confusing mess.

    • MoogleMaestro ( MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zip ) 
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      Like what else would a .log file be? A video file? A Word Document? An executable?

      I think their point is that a 200gb text file is a wild size usage for a crash log, and there’s probably accidentally some binary data in that log. There’s no way a crash log can exceed 2x the size of the game binary itself.

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        deleted by creator

    • Liz ( Liz@midwest.social ) 
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      Most people have zero understanding of how programs work. I have slightly more understanding than the average person and I didn’t catch that a crash log would nearly always be a text file.

  • Dave2 ( Dave2@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    My log file in rimworld after I add my 691st mod

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      Oh no, I should probably check that.

  • Midnitte ( Midnitte@beehaw.org ) 
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    Seems weird to critique “western game devs”

    Developers of any region can be terrible.

    • DragonTypeWyvern ( DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ) Banned from community
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      Removed by mod

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 🏆 ( Kolanaki@yiffit.net ) 
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      I’ve never heard anyone accuse of game of being “western jank” but I’ve heard plenty be called “eurojank” or “slavjank.”

      Doesn’t make 'em bad. Some of my favorite games are slavjank. Like STALKER.

      • Match!! ( match@pawb.social ) 
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        “westjank” should mean always-online singleplayer experiences with kernel anti-cheats and 300 gb crash logs

  • bl_r ( bl_r@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    I’ve written code that has generated logs like that. In my case, I had all of my 12 threads writing to a logger, and over the course of 2 hours it got to about 250gb, which was the remainder space on my drive

  • Peachy [they/she]  ( PeachyMcPeachface@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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    I had this problem with my old phone…a One Plus 9. One Plus used to be so good now it’s full of bloatware and bugs. Their suggested fix was factory resetting the phone to factory due to them limiting what files could be checked.

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      Yeah, my OP9 was my third OnePlus phone and my last one. I installed a security update that made the cell radio completely non-functional and had to factory reset it. I use my phone for 2FA to get into my work computer, so this was simply unacceptable.

      I realized I wasn’t doing enough with my phone to warrant flagship prices and ended up switching to a Pixel 6a I got on the cheap. Other than having to add wireless charging with an accessory, I haven’t looked back.

      • Peachy [they/she]  ( PeachyMcPeachface@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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        I switched to the Pixel 8. It’s okay, good camera but a little buggy. Last phone I REALLY liked was the LG G5 that had a slide-out battery. I think it was t-mobile(?) had a bonus where they gave you a free extra battery and charger for that battery. I could go for a couple days at it’s peak without a charger, just a battery swap

  • friendly_ghost ( friendly_ghost@beehaw.org ) 
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    Opens with: Notepad

    Does it, though?

    • itslilith ( itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      Depends, how much RAM do you have?

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