• Pretty massive screw up from the marketing team involved. To try and sell a hero shooter for $40 upfront from an unknown dev studio in a crowded market of free-to-play hero shooters is pretty risky. Even Overwatch 2 saw the writing on the wall and went F2P.

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    I’ve had a friend tell me that her stream group (and her) or whatever was happy to see these woke games die. I’m only looking at this superficially but what about this game is woke? I just thought it was shit.

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      LPT: I t’s usually a safe bet to ignore anyone deriding a game for its “wokeness,” their opinions are reactionary and not based in any reasonable sense of reality

      • Baldur’s Gate is a prime example for people not actually being bothered by the “woke” stuff all that much. It just gets the blame when the product turns out shit because it’s an easy tool to explain why everything else about a game sucks.

        The mechanics are bad? They must’ve spent more time arguing how to include pronouns than how to make the game fun.

        Buggy? Obviously revisions to make the game more inclusive had more priority.

        Are those speculations true? Idk but stuff like the leaked Sweet Baby Inc. talks about how to include more progressive aspects in a game make it seem believable enough for most people.

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          I think the ridiculousness of the argument is that adding pronoun options during character creation is an almost nothing feature to implement. I would get if there was like a bunch of money and time put into making unique “woke questlines” that you could say that there was a large resource allocation. I wouldn’t agree that doing that would be a terrible thing though.

          Culture war gamers just like to allocate blame to wokeness when things fail. The successes that contradict their biases are ignored.

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      nah, the game had shit marketing, shit and generic characters design, was 8 years too late, it’s basically overwatch but overwatch is free, valve has a hero shooter just around the corner, that’s probably as “woke” as it can but it’s free and exploding in numbers(even in closed alpha), if the problem was just the woke part, it would have attracted these “woke” people,but no one played it lol

    • The character selector said what characters were he/she or non binary. Which I don’t see the point to be honest, but hating a game because if it is laughably stupid. Maybe some people really want to play as non binary characters because that’s what they identify as, and more power to them. My new addiction is dethlock and my favorite character is dynamo, a fat robot gravity man. I don’t identify as any of these things.

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      I see this game mentioned repeatedly over the meme-brink, but it’s that relevant in the PC scope? Because I am beginning to think only people who had already played on PS4 care about it: it looks like the “I use Arch, btw” meme (a random guy repeated that make clear they use a product/thing… which nobody ask them about).

      Bloodborne sold ~7million copies in the span of ~7 years ( ref ), for comparison a game like Sekiro (while not forgotten, you don’t see random people jumping out and say “I played/want Sekiro btw”) sold 10 million in ~4 years ( ref )

      • There is a (from my guess) sizable chunk of soulslike fans who want to play Bloodborne but won’t get a console just to do it. The noise around it is likely as loud as it is because it is the only Fromsoft soulslike released after the initial success of Dark Souls that is not available on PC, the other games all either got a PC port (Dark Souls 1-3) or released on PC from the start (Sekiro, Elden Ring)

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        Aah you’re correct it isn’t a PC game, PS only which accounts for the sales difference for sekiro for example. Also, dark souls wasn’t really that popular until bloodborne came out, it energized the soulsborne genre. It is a very important game, a masterpiece, but unfortunately unless you get ahold of the very recently emulated version for PC, you can’t play without a PS. Sorry, didn’t realize this was a PC gaming space. I saw concord is a Sony game, and i have a bit of a one track mind.

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        Because I am beginning to think only people who had already played on PS4 care about it

        Personally, I never played it due to being a console exclusive, but would be very happy if it came to PC.

        To me it makes sense that many of the people who played other souls-like/FromSoftware games would want to play “that missing one”.