Cant believe they are increasing the prices this much in one go, gonna be going back to adblockers.
- otter ( @otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•20 minutes ago
Yo HO!
- foremanguy ( @foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml ) English6•7 hours ago
Worst and worst…
- kirk781 ( @kirk781@discuss.tchncs.de ) English24•10 hours ago
I have YouTube Premium though not the Family variant and Google won’t just fix their app. It is way behind NewPipe or YouTube ReVanced. No, I don’t need shorts. No I don’t need constant nudges to join groups of YouTubers by paying after I just paid you money, Google!
What I want is system wide quality setting (what exactly does High or Data Saver mean; would it kill you to give 480p, 720p or 1080p as options) or Sponserblock integration (okay, this thing is probably never gonna happen but still). YouTube 's app is a stinking pile of shit. I just use YouTube Music from them and will cancel/not renew my plan after it lapses.
- dillekant ( @dillekant@slrpnk.net ) English11•5 hours ago
Not a premium user but Youtube has poisoned its own waters with its algorithm. You can see the “top” content basically gaming that algorithm as well as it can. Literally every part of it from the title to the thumbnail to the content itself is hollow except for the skinner box.
- sunzu2 ( @sunzu2@thebrainbin.org ) 3•3 hours ago
they don’t call it engagement slop for no reason.
- eluvinar ( @eluvinar@szmer.info ) English7•6 hours ago
It’s funny, because sponsorblock and vanced only exist because of youtube’s greed. And now I can’t imagine using their service without them, even if they rollback the annoying ads. And they can’t implement them. It’s really the problem they made for themselves.
- lemmydividebyzero ( @lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com ) English17•12 hours ago
Wait, people pay for that?
- incognito08 ( @incognito08@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English9•7 hours ago
As I said in a previous post, people are afraid of pirating, so they prefer higher prices if it is a “safe” method.
- lemmydividebyzero ( @lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com ) English4•1 hour ago
I wouldn’t call it pirating… More like… I receive the video, but the ads were unfortunately lost on the way…
- liveinthisworld ( @liveinthisworld@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•1 hour ago
Why are they “afraid”?
- otter ( @otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•12 minutes ago
Because that’s part of the consumer model. See: religion.
- DebatableRaccoon ( @DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca ) English4•3 hours ago
People need education.
- sunzu2 ( @sunzu2@thebrainbin.org ) 2•3 hours ago
bootlickers love theirs chains, they won’ be saved but younger folk have a chance to break the cycle of abuse
- DebatableRaccoon ( @DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca ) English5•60 minutes ago
Sadly a lot of young people are taught nothing but convenience and ignorance. I’m the only one in any of my friend circles that says anything against these practices. All of my friends, from different walks of life just shrug me off.
- sunzu2 ( @sunzu2@thebrainbin.org ) 2•46 minutes ago
Well maybe next generation then… Or maybe we are destitined to be enslaved due to herd mentality.
- DarkMetatron ( @DarkMetatron@feddit.org ) English11•7 hours ago
I pay for that, because YouTube and YouTube Music is the main source of media for me And my family and I have no issue with paying for a service that I use a lot. And paying for that is so much easier then investing huge amounts of time into searching for and maintaining alternative Players and Tools for all the different devices where I (and my family) consume YouTube and YouTube Music. My limited time is more valuable for me then the price for the service.
- _spiffy ( @_spiffy@lemmy.ca ) English3•2 hours ago
This is the same for me and my family. It’s such a great feature to have and worth not seeing ads. I feel like supporting the platforms I use is important to me.
- unknowing8343 ( @unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de ) English9•6 hours ago
I can understand if you want to pay. But don’t say it’s hard to block ads when all you need is uBlock origin installed… And that’s it. It’s literally a 15 seconds job for the rest of the life of your browser.
- DarkMetatron ( @DarkMetatron@feddit.org ) English2•2 hours ago
And how do I install uBlock origin into my living room television? How into the YouTube app on my Chromecast? Sure I could use Firefox on that but that will break any chance of sending YouTube videos from a phone to the Chromecast, so not really a valid option. How into the PS5? How install it into any kind of mobile apple device? How into all kinds of mobile YouTube music applications? Yes, it is easy when the only way to consume YouTube is via Webbrowser and even that gets more and more complicated whenever google changes something to block ad blockers.
- otter ( @otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English1•8 minutes ago
All of this, and more, is quite simply defined in easy to follow steps on a site or two.
Are you asking genuinely or just listing off questions? Do you have 30mins to sit down and focus on setting up ALL of the above? Personally, I think you owe it to yourself and your family to at least try. 🖖🏽
- unknowing8343 ( @unknowing8343@discuss.tchncs.de ) English2•22 minutes ago
I understand. But that should make you automatically realise that you should give that old fat/broken laptop a chance to be plugged into your TV. Put a 10 $ remote mini keyboard there and no one will touch the TV interface again.
- db0 ( @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English11•2 hours ago
Remember that many people they don’t consume YouTube primarily in a browser
- sunzu2 ( @sunzu2@thebrainbin.org ) 3•3 hours ago
and once you are on 4k teevee, i see no issue paying for that quality.
i have an issue with being data mined while paying tho…
- Bo7a ( @Bo7a@lemmy.ca ) English3•5 hours ago
I pay for yt family premium and Netflix but use neither of them on a regular basis.
My nephews grew up with a pretty shitty life. They don’t have a lot of fun things they can do in their situation. I figured the least I could do is give them YouTube music and some access to watch TV and movies on Netflix wherever they happen to be.
It’s the same reason my steam family is chock full of games I’ll never play.
- abbadon420 ( @abbadon420@lemm.ee ) English6•9 hours ago
A LOT of people pay for that. I was flabbergasted as well. Why would you pay for a free service? This feels like buying premium bottled tap water and they don’t even bother to filter out the chlorine and the heavy metals.
- BruceTwarzen ( @BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee ) English3•7 hours ago
People buy diet water, so i don’t think there is a limit to what people buy
- cmnybo ( @cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de ) English51•14 hours ago
I’m surprised more people aren’t using uBlock Origin. It’s an absolute necessity for browsing the web anymore.
- ulkesh ( @ulkesh@beehaw.org ) English1•3 hours ago
When I can set that up for my AppleTV to block ads on YouTube, I’ll be happy to use it.
- Blizzard ( @Blizzard@lemmy.zip ) English4•10 hours ago
I barely ever use PC for browsing web anymore.
- Alice ( @Alice@beehaw.org ) English3•6 hours ago
I really like YouTube Revanced on Android, it’s a patcher that includes an ad blocker as well as a ton of other QOL fixes.
But I understand why more people don’t fuck with it, because if you install it wrong, your app will bug in the weirdest ways. Like my YouTube app kept getting renamed with the content of my last error message.
- Blizzard ( @Blizzard@lemmy.zip ) English2•4 hours ago
I use Revance Manager for patching other apps but youtube app is shit no matter how much you patch it. Prefer NewPipe or even LibreTube over patched Youtube app.
- Blackmist ( @Blackmist@feddit.uk ) English1•5 hours ago
I honestly think it’ seven more important to have an adblock on a phone.
The amount of pages that on mobile are an advert covering the top half, and a give us your data prompt at the bottom seems to be nearly everything these days. At least on a monitor there’s room for the content.
- Blizzard ( @Blizzard@lemmy.zip ) English1•4 hours ago
I didn’t say I don’t block ads on the phone. Read my other comments here.
- GravitySpoiled ( @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml ) English12•9 hours ago
It’s available for mobile as well. You find it in the extension manager
- Blizzard ( @Blizzard@lemmy.zip ) English2•9 hours ago
For which mobile and what extensions manager?
I’m blocking ads phone-wide, I just don’t use uBlock Origin for that on the phone.
- umbrella ( @umbrella@lemmy.ml ) English2•3 hours ago
firefox exists on mobile too
- GravitySpoiled ( @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml ) English8•8 hours ago
Firefox, mull, fennec, etc
- Malta Soron ( @maltasoron@sopuli.xyz ) English9•9 hours ago
Firefox for Android has uBlock Origin (and lots of other useful extensions). You do need to set Firefox as the default app for YouTube links, but after that it works perfectly.
- Blizzard ( @Blizzard@lemmy.zip ) English4•8 hours ago
I use NewPipe for Youtube, there are no ads at all.
I use AdGuard for blocking ads phone-wide and if I hadn’t, Vivaldi has a built-in adblocker too.
Bottom line is I don’t see any ads without using uBlock Origin. Original commenter is “surprised more people aren’t using” it like it’s the only way to go, while in reality it usable only in certain scenarios. It’s best for PC but not for mobile.
- style99 ( @style99@lemm.ee ) English10•11 hours ago
To be fair, this does add more to the pot for YouTube creators.
If you’re a YouTube Premium member, you won’t see ads, so we share your monthly membership fee with creators. Best of all, the more videos you watch from your favorite creators, the more money they make.
- ColdWater ( @ColdWater@lemmy.ca ) English1•1 hour ago
I mostly watch shitposts on YouTube anyway so Adblocker would do just fine
- Krauerking ( @Krauerking@lemy.lol ) English2•4 hours ago
So this has been true of YouTube Red since the beginning. It’s one if the reasons I got it. But they use watch time as the way to divide your money out. It actually makes it extremely unfair split for people that make great but short content. It’s also why longer content became more popular around that time and those 24/7 streams run like that.
Also why creators started doing channels of just padded run time content of like building legos and eating things. It’s to secure better and funding.
The current setup is pretty busted and feels like the wheels are coming off again.
- fine_sandy_bottom ( @fine_sandy_bottom@lemmy.federate.cc ) English2•5 hours ago
There are very very few youtubers I world like to support.
- Zagorath ( @Zagorath@aussie.zone ) English10•10 hours ago
I’d rather just spend a fraction of the money on a Nebula subscription.
- Phil_in_here ( @Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca ) English23•15 hours ago
It’s like the cost of one banana
- tkw8 ( @tkw8@lemm.ee ) English14•14 hours ago
There is always money in the banana stand.
- overload ( @overload@sopuli.xyz ) English2•12 hours ago
audible mouth clicking
- Ilandar ( @Ilandar@aussie.zone ) English18•15 hours ago
I guess relatively few people still turn to piracy, it seems like all these streaming platforms are massively increasing their prices knowing that their customers will try to rationalise the extra spending somehow.
- shani66 ( @shani66@ani.social ) English5•10 hours ago
I personally would read this as a sign that more people are turning to ad blocking or straight up leaving. Not enough money coming in so they have to jack prices up way faster than they’d likely do otherwise.