“After extensive consultation, discussion, and deliberation, the American Muslim 2024 Election Task Force has decided to encourage American Muslims to vote for any presidential candidate of their choosing who supports a permanent ceasefire in Gaza and a US arms embargo on the Israeli government, such as candidates Dr Jill Stein, Dr Cornel West or Chase Oliver,” read the statement, obtained by Middle East Eye.
The statement was written by the American Muslim 2024 Election Task Force, an umbrella group formed this year that consists of a number of prominent Muslim organisations including the political arms of Americans for Justice in Palestine (AJP), Cair, and the US Council of Muslim Organizations.
“We cannot endorse Vice President Kamala Harris’ candidacy because of her refusal to even consider imposing the arms embargo on the Israeli government required by US laws and her failure to promise any other changes whatsoever to President Biden’s failed policy of steadfast financial, diplomatic and military support for Israel’s genocide in Gaza,” the statement read.
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Let me just say to those who say voting for a third party candidate is a waste of a vote, it is not. Either way, the person who wins will see how many votes that candidate got, and will know that that is the way many people FEEL about a specific issue. Then they will have to cater to that view in someway.
Wrong, electoral college has you on rails in the U.S. there are no thirds and never have been.
WeLl AcKThUaLLy, Ross Perot got really close in the 1992 &1996 election and his views on taxing the wealthy to eleminate national debt were followed through by the Clinton administration, the last administration that had a surplus, not a deficit, that Al Gore wanted to put in a lockbox. But yeah, if it weren’t for the electoral college, Gore would have been elected, and we’d probably be better off rn
How many electoral votes did ole Ross get?
Since tankies thrive on open questions I will answer myself. 0 , H. Ross Perot got 0 electoral votes in his only full candidacy for president. That is the % chance that a third party candidate has in the U.S. For anyone not familiar with U.S. elections that wishes to chime in.
My point was that voting for a third party still makes your voice heard, regardless if your guy won or not. Even Bush jr had to acknowledge climate change, and the Biden administration is struggling with the border issue. An issue Republicans voted for… on a guy that lost. Their voice is still being heard, and represented even though their guy is running away from jail atm.
But since fascists like saying opposition to one party monopolies or duopolies is futile or the norm, I’ll say, it’s not. It’s the way a democracy should work. Many parties ruling instead of just one or two, people having their voices heard (not just old people).
So, you’re asking Democrats to make their voice heard and not vote Kamala. Who’s gonna be the one to answer then?
Put any spin you want on it, a vote against Kamala is a vote for Trump. Now shush you insipid tankie.
A vote is a vote, and why would you vote for a candidate you think wouldnt represent your values or you?
Your calling me a tankie is no different than Trump calling Kamala a Marxist.
Wrong again, you belong to this movement of voter suppression tactics and you’re showing that your anti- democratic arguments actually fall right in line with right wing vote suppression tactics . Keep using your shield of equivalency. I call it like I see it.
Feel free to check, I’ve been called y’all out since day one of the respectable Ms. Harris’s candidacy
Are any of these people actually relevant? Because this is not how you get your way, so I really hope they are not representing any actual constituent communities.
What do you propose Muslim-Americans do to stop genocide?
Either way, Muslim-Americans make up a significant population in Michigan, enough to sway the swing state. Harris is playing with fire with her commitment to maintaining the Party Line on genocide.
I think you can figure this one out if you try.
Telling your members to vote third party six weeks before the election is the exact opposite of that.
This is saying “we have no power, we give up”.
Voting for Harris is saying “we have no power, we give up”. It’s allowing the Democratic Party to deteriorate further into an imperialist party. They’re going to get so much worse if they come to believe they can kill unlimited Palestinians and face zero consequences.
I think you can figure this one out if you try.
Seems like you’re hinting that they should just accept that genocide is a fact of life for Muslims, instead of pressuring to change it. Easy to say when you aren’t the target.
Telling your members to vote third party six weeks before the election is the exact opposite of that.
Stein has been polling ahead of Harris for months with Muslim-American voters, this isn’t a new thing. Harris has had the time and information to pivot, and hasn’t.
Seems like you’re hinting that they should just accept that genocide is a fact of life for Muslims, instead of pressuring to change it.
Hell no. But this is politics. Taking your ball and going home gets you nothing.
If you have the power to swing Michigan you are the most important voters in the election that don’t live in Pennsylvania. You can leverage that into a deal.
But you are going to have to be clear that you’re asking. “Stop the genocide” isn’t it. She’s not the one killing people. The only person that can actually stop the genocide is Bibi. He’s not on the ballot in November. You have to make an ask and it’s gotta be clear and it’s got to be something that you can realistically get.
Also, the other guys need to be convinced you can hold up your own side of the deal. Can you deliver Michigan? Or are you just posturing?
The way I see it, this statement gets no progress on the first, and actively harms the second. After this statement, an endorsement from them would be worse than useless. If these organizations can’t deliver Michigan, the campaign will just roll the dice with the “moderates”.
This statement is political malpractice.
Easy to say when you aren’t the target.
What the actual fuck dude.
If you have the power to swing Michigan you are the most important voters in the election that don’t live in Pennsylvania. You can leverage that into a deal.
That’s what they are doing. Promising unconditional support for Harris despite her pushing for continued genocide has no leverage.
But you are going to have to be clear that you’re asking. “Stop the genocide” isn’t it. She’s not the one killing people. The only person that can actually stop the genocide is Bibi. He’s not on the ballot in November. You have to make an ask and it’s gotta be clear and it’s got to be something that you can realistically get.
Israel is a vassal state that depends on the support of the US. Absolving the US of the deeds of the vassal it provides weapons and munitions for is wrong, the deeds require the support of the US to continue.
What the actual fuck dude.
Talk to Muslim-Americans. They aren’t stupid, or lacking in critical thinking. The ones voting Green are doing so because they can’t support genocide, and realize that witholding support is the only way to force any kind of hand.
That’s what they are doing. Promising unconditional support for Harris despite her pushing for continued genocide has no leverage.
No. They are telling their constituent to vote third party as early voting is getting underway. They are literally setting fire to their political capital while there’s still six weeks to figure out something that both sides can be happy with.
Israel is a vassal state that depends on the support of the US.
I mean, if you truly believe that then I guess the whole system is compromised and you gotta burn it all down. But it’s not something that has actual salience outside conspiratorial circles and the people that amplify them for their own ends.
No. They are telling their constituent to vote third party as early voting is getting underway. They are literally setting fire to their political capital while there’s still six weeks to figure out something that both sides can be happy with.
They are standing their ground. Harris can reach out at any time she wants and change course.
I mean, if you truly believe that then I guess the whole system is compromised and you gotta burn it all down.
I mean, correct. Do you disagree?
But it’s not something that has actual salience outside conspiratorial circles and the people that amplify them for their own ends.
You sure? It’s quite salient among actual Palestinians, if you’d for once listen to them, which cascades to Muslim-American voters which cascades to swing-state results and the overall US Federal election.
You can leverage that into a deal.
They tried. Nothing happened. Because to the Democrats supporting Israel is more important than winning in November.
… or they don’t really have the power to deliver their “base” vote anyway.
This press release stinks like one of those “I must discover where my people are going so that I can lead them” schticks.
… or they don’t really have the power to deliver their “base” vote anyway.
Uh… They do. Muslims are one of the groups that have the most to lose from a Trump victory; it’s just that Harris refuses to budge on the one thing making them unable to vote for her.
CAIR and USCMO are the biggest Muslim organizations in the U.S. In negotiations Democrats were unwilling to make any concessions for Palestine. Voting for Harris anyway would be counterproductive.
Trump does have a plan to end the suffering of the Palestinians, forever.
Trump doesn’t have any plans. He just does whatever dumb bullshit pops in his head.
Yeah, the same one Harris does, because they both unconditionally support the genocide! It’s not like Trump would invade Palestine (short of a broader regional conflict)
BlueMAGA out in force against this article
- BigMacHole ( @BigMacHole@lemm.ee ) 9•7 months ago
These are OBVIOUS Blue Maga trying to get Trump Elected! I mean, what’s Harris supposed to do, NOT Endorse a Country bombing Schools and Orphanages? That’s RIDICULOUS!
Hey look, it’s the person that’s exactly what they are sarcasticly talking about. Throw away your vote if you want. It don’t work that way here.
Palestinians and those who care about them and middle easterners and islmamic folk of any kind need to realize that they need trump in office. He has pogroms ready and waiting tailor made for you and anyone alive who has experienced one will tell you they are great.