•  veee   ( @veeesix@lemmy.ca ) 
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    442 months ago

    […] so why were only Apple phones affected?

    The answer, it seems, is because Apple recently defected from traditional quartz-based clocks in its phones in favor of clocks that are also made of MEMS silicon. Given that clocks are the most critical device in any computer and are necessary to make the CPU function, their disruption with helium atoms is enough to crash the device. 

    In this case, the leaking helium from the MRI machine infiltrated the iPhones like a “tiny grain of sand” and caused the MEMS clocks to go haywire.

    •  Otter   ( @otter@lemmy.ca ) 
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      122 months ago

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microelectromechanical_system_oscillator

      Interesting

      MEMS oscillators incorporate MEMS resonators, which are microelectromechanical structures that define stable frequencies. MEMS clock generators are MEMS timing devices with multiple outputs for systems that need more than a single reference frequency. MEMS oscillators are a valid alternative to older, more established quartz crystal oscillators, offering better resilience against vibration and mechanical shock, and reliability with respect to temperature variation.

      So the helium causes physical interference by leaking into the housing?

      • Yup. Helium is such a tiny thing it can diffuse through almost anything, and in MEMS oscillators which are supposed to be at a rock solid 32kHz, causes variance in the frequency eventually just “gumming” it up entirely and causing it to stop working.

        If you want to know how and why, Applied Science did a video on it. Five years ago. Because that’s when this leak happened.

        • Yup. Most of the mems devices will essentially shut down the device if they go out of tolerance. This is a pretty common-knowledge fact among folks who work with large magnets, or with helium or hydrogen gas.

          Funnily enough, it also happens with equipment microcontrollers which are unlikely to have a MEMS unit in them – for instance, any benchtop centrifuge made after the mid-90s will shut down, and I’m pretty sure those are still on quartz clocks. It also effects things like on-chip thermometers.

    •  tal   ( @tal@lemmy.today ) 
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      102 months ago

      Hmm.

      That seems like it’d open a lot of potential abuses.

      I wonder what the failure mode of various electronic locks is when they’re exposed to helium?

    • Well that’s not true. It’s just a real bitch. As a welder, helium leak check is about the toughest damn QC to pass. Most welding QC has some reasonable margin for error during inspection, but the damn helium doesn’t care. You can have a beautiful weld with a tiny imperfection at the start or end and it’ll piss helium just as badly as an entirely scuffed bead.

  • …Yet both Android and Apple phones use MEMS silicon for their devices, so why were only Apple phones affected? The answer, it seems, is because Apple recently defected from traditional quartz-based clocks in its phones in favor of clocks that are also made of MEMS silicon.

    So, they ask the question of why iPhones are the only ones affected if androids also went to MEMS, then answer it by saying that apple went to MEMS. Are they saying that the clocks in Androids still use quartz, but iPhones use MEMS clocks, even though they both use general MEMS silicon?

    Edit, autocorrect

  • By Daniel Oberhaus October 30, 2018, 5:20pm

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    Yet both Android and Apple phones use MEMS silicon for their devices, so why were only Apple phones affected?

    Glad I’ve got an Android since I could potentially work with liquid Hydrogen…