- kittenzrulz123 ( @kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 1•4 hours ago
Violence against fascists isn’t an answer, its a question and the answer is always yes
- Queen HawlSera ( @HawlSera@lemm.ee ) English3•8 hours ago
When you debate the bigots in the “Free Market of Ideas”, you basically say that these bigoted ideas are “Just as valid as any other”
This is why you don’t see Temu shit on Target shelves, but in shady grey market apps.
- ILikeBoobies ( @ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca ) 6•13 hours ago
The rational debate is so the on the fence people see the problems with the bigots rather than just the bigoted opinions/“proof”
It’s about stopping the lies from spreading not changing an individual opinion. You could hardly call yourself a leftist if you don’t understand that
- DoucheBagMcSwag ( @DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 2•19 hours ago
Tolerance goes both ways motherfucker
- msage ( @msage@programming.dev ) 5•24 hours ago
Fuck sealions!
- I_am_10_squirrels ( @I_am_10_squirrels@beehaw.org ) 2•5 hours ago
I tried, but it didn’t go well for either of us.
- hungryphrog ( @hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 71•2 days ago
One thing I’ve learned is you can’t engage in a rational debate with an irrational person.
- luciferofastora ( @luciferofastora@lemmy.zip ) 35•2 days ago
An open society that doesn’t want the intolerant to undermine and topple it must be ready to defend itself - by reason and argument if possible, but these may fail because the intolerant reject reason itself. Force should be the last resort, but if all other means prove fruitless, it should be a resort still.
- mindaika ( @mindaika@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English9•2 days ago
Agreed: those people, who aren’t like us, are bad people and must not be tolerated
- jabathekek ( @jabathekek@sopuli.xyz ) 48•2 days ago
You can’t explain stupid to stupid.
- AnarchoSnowPlow ( @AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social ) 24•2 days ago
But but my freeze peach!!1!21!
- twinnie ( @twinnie@feddit.uk ) 4•2 days ago
Is this kind of stupid rhetoric that sows the divide in US politics and it’s why places like Lemmy and Reddit are just echo chambers. Just saying people who have the opposite few are stupid and should be ignored does nothing to address their concerns and they still get a vote at the end of the day.
- Norah - She/They ( @princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English28•2 days ago
Ah yes, you are so correct. I should “address the concerns” of bigots that tell me I shouldn’t have the right to exist, and that I’m going to rape fellow women in the bathroom. My mistake.
- supersquirrel ( @supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz ) 15•2 days ago
If bigots are allowed to redefine violence as an opinion, it is only reasonable to redefine “addressing the concerns” of bigots as punching them in the face.
- Norah - She/They ( @princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English10•2 days ago
I like the way you think!
- JackbyDev ( @JackbyDev@programming.dev ) English12•2 days ago
We’re talking about bigots not people with different opinions.
- NaevaTheRat ( @NaevaTheRat@vegantheoryclub.org ) English11•2 days ago
You mistake conflict for confusion.
If someone’s terminal values are opposed to yours you cannot convince them. Sometimes people change core opinions slowly, but almost always by interaction with people close to them (i.e. where they have conflicting drives to uphold or reject an opinion). Internet debate me bro shit is pointless and just poisons spaces.
- Swedneck ( @Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de ) 7•2 days ago
this feels very ironic