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- regul ( @regul@lemm.ee ) 76•2 months ago
What solution is AI going to come up with other than “stop burning fossil fuels”? We already know the solution to climate change. Acting like we don’t is absurd.
I think a good first step in meeting climate goals would be eating Eric Schmidt.
- masterofn001 ( @masterofn001@lemmy.ca ) 27•2 months ago
The solution to humanity’s climate change problem is to eliminate humans.
~ AI
- teawrecks ( @teawrecks@sopuli.xyz ) 6•2 months ago
If we can’t get the solution implemented, then it’s not a solution.
- Norah - She/They ( @princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English11•2 months ago
So what you’re saying is that it is indeed time to move on to eating the rich?
- teawrecks ( @teawrecks@sopuli.xyz ) 1•2 months ago
Wealth inequality is a huge problem that needs to be addressed. And so is reducing complex systemic issues to catchy reductive memes.
- Norah - She/They ( @princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English5•2 months ago
Rich coming from someone who says we should, just, continue burning fossil fuels because it’s been hard to stop. If you want a serious discussion, offer serious solutions.
- teawrecks ( @teawrecks@sopuli.xyz ) 1•1 month ago
You know I didn’t say that, but the sad part is I do believe you think the world is a simple dichotomy of rich vs poor.
Oh well, I’ll take it over the other false dichotomies. I like your energy kid, but you’re going to have to get smarter if you want to see change in the world, for all of our sakes. Your current strategy ain’t gonna cut it.
- Norah - She/They ( @princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) English3•1 month ago
Please, enlighten me then, what did you mean by your initial comment?
Kid? I’m willing to bet I’m older than you.
- teawrecks ( @teawrecks@sopuli.xyz ) 1•1 month ago
I intended for you to think about it, and if you disagree, offer a thought out response. There’s still time for that, just scroll back up.
I’m willing to bet I’m older than you.
Given your responses so far, it’s much less embarrassing for you to say you’re either 15 or a troll bot.
Regarding the state of the climate, human kind is an ant hill, a game of factorio, a manufacturing pipeline. We’re in a race to generate enough energy to escape the grave of our own making that started over a hundred years before any of us were born. We’ve already crossed the threshold where, if we stopped emitting any greenhouse gasses whatsoever, we will still see a massive population decline due to heat, weather, food shortage, etc, most in poorer countries who are neither responsible for the problem, nor capable if dealing with it.
Our best bet to save as many lives as possible is to continue research into cutting edge power generation, food production, clean water generation, and sustainable and durable housing/cooling technologies.
The strategy of telling the wealthy to stop consuming energy cold turkey is no longer a viable strategy, as it’s not beneficial for anyone. It’s also not practical unless you’re a fictional, superhuman character who can zip around and force humankind to your benevolent will (or you have globally powerful military and are willing to enact martial law, but good luck).
To win the race, to reduce the ensuing death and destruction and minimize unnecessary casualties to the human (and other) species, we need to put as much research as possible into new renewable tech (solar, wind, water, nuclear, and fusion if possible). It’s unclear what AI has to offer, but it is already being used to solve manufacturing challenges that neither a single human capable of, nor a group of humans can effectively abstract and communicate about. If this can be leveraged to develop new sustainable energy or bioengineering solutions that were never before known to be possible, that is how we save the most lives.
What doesn’t save any lives is rallying behind the same absolutist strategy we’ve tried for over 50 years and making no progress. But I get it, memes travel further and faster than measured thought. That’s also a problem for us.
- averyminya ( @averyminya@beehaw.org ) 3•2 months ago
It can only be hoping for some alien technology that we haven’t found out with modern research will be discovered. Like an extreme version of carbon recapture that hasn’t been thought of.
Except somehow derived from literature, images, and the internet as points of data.
How? Well, I’m sure the AI will tell us… right?
- desktop_user ( @desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 1•2 months ago
block the sun is also a method to reduce global warming.
- teawrecks ( @teawrecks@sopuli.xyz ) 1•2 months ago
You’re only technically correct
- desktop_user ( @desktop_user@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 1•2 months ago
so you agree that it would work
- teawrecks ( @teawrecks@sopuli.xyz ) 1•2 months ago
Well yeah, no sun no problem! What could go wrong?
- pbjamm ( @pbjamm@beehaw.org ) English1•1 month ago
Mr Burns approves
- NoForwardslashS ( @NoForwardslashS@sopuli.xyz ) 32•2 months ago
The schmuck doesn’t even know what AI stands for.
- DavidGarcia ( @DavidGarcia@feddit.nl ) 10•2 months ago
it ends on “insertion”
- tangentism ( @tangentism@beehaw.org ) 31•2 months ago
Epic Schmidt goes to his AI prompt and asks “How do we solve the climate crisis?”
For a moment, the prompt ponders until it replies
“Kill all the data centres. Stop trying to harvest everyone’s data”
Epic says to himself “I guess we’ll never know!”
- lily33 ( @lily33@lemm.ee ) 28•2 months ago
If we wait for AI to be advanced enough to solve the problem and don’t do anything in the meantime, when the time finally comes, the AI will (then, rightfully) determine that there’s only one way to solve it…
- Fermion ( @Fermion@feddit.nl ) 18•2 months ago
Natural Intelligence has already proposed solutions. The real lie is in expecting us to believe that decision makers would be any more likely to act on the solutions that AI comes up with.
- Blake (he/him) ( @bl4kers@beehaw.org ) English4•2 months ago
That’s exactly right. Even if we made an AI that could give us the perfect solution and had accurate projections to back up its assertions, inevitably we’d reject it because we wouldn’t trust it fully. It cannot fix the often selfish nature of humans
- jasoncg ( @jasoncg@programming.dev ) 25•2 months ago
“Yes, the planet got destroyed. But for a beautiful moment in time we created a lot of value for shareholders!”
- Eric Schmidt, probably
- Spacehooks ( @Spacehooks@reddthat.com ) English1•2 months ago
IRL Ted faro energy. Bet he will betray humanity again somehow to ease his conscious.
- ClassifiedPancake ( @ClassifiedPancake@discuss.tchncs.de ) 19•2 months ago
We have all the solutions, we just need to execute them.
- Spacehooks ( @Spacehooks@reddthat.com ) English6•2 months ago
But the shareholders!
- pbjamm ( @pbjamm@beehaw.org ) English1•1 month ago
Long pig is back on the menu!
- Branquinho ( @Branquinho@lemmy.eco.br ) 18•2 months ago
“I’m not hitting my goals on staying sober. I’d rather bet on my next drink to solve this problem for me.”
- Kichae ( @Kichae@lemmy.ca ) English16•2 months ago
Why advocate for trying to stop climate disaster when you can choose to believe that you can both profit off of it and be the hero that saves humanity from it, both at the same time?
- vrighter ( @vrighter@discuss.tchncs.de ) 16•2 months ago
the first advice the superintelligent ai would give: “power me down”
- Midnitte ( @Midnitte@beehaw.org ) English16•2 months ago
Considering the staggering cost of AI models, waiting until AI solves the problem is going to do nothing but prove the Great Filter hypothesis.
- DdCno1 ( @DdCno1@beehaw.org ) 15•2 months ago
I think we should start with AI CEOs first. Watch how quickly these tech bros become AI skeptics when you suggest this.
- Storksforlegs ( @storksforlegs@beehaw.org ) English15•2 months ago
Imagine someone like him acting like ‘coming up with solutions’ is the problem. Infuriating ghouls.
- Eryn6844 ( @Eryn6844@beehaw.org ) 14•2 months ago
what an idiot
- Chuymatt ( @Chuymatt@beehaw.org ) 3•2 months ago
No. He is smart.
But ‘fool’? Now, that fits.
- Nougat ( @Nougat@fedia.io ) 12•2 months ago
The solution must be a hammer, because I have one!
- kembik ( @kembik@lemm.ee ) 9•2 months ago
And we’ll come up with a name that merges climate and technology, let’s call it skynet.