Wow, they (apparently) finally made the REPL not suck! I always thought it was weird how shit it was given that it’s one of the big reasons Python has become as popular as it is.
Maybe in another 20 years they can make the package tooling not suck too.
Tbf,
uvis trying to solve packaging nowYeah it’s definitely a vast improvement on previous attempts (Poetry et al).
I dunno if it can be called solved until it’s officially sanctioned and installed by default though, and I don’t see that happening for a very long time.
How is it better than poetry?
It actually works. I tried poetry once and it failed to resolve some simple dependency specification.
Ok you can say it was a fluke bug but it didn’t inspire confidence.
uvis also freakishly fast. My venv setup times went from 57 seconds to 7 seconds. I seriously doubt Poetry can do that because it’s written in Python.I abandoned poetry after it was unable to install a specific version of pytorch I was using.
In pip I would do something like
pip3 install torch torchvision torchaudio --index-url https://download.pytorch.org/whl/cu118, but IIRC poetry didn’t support the--index-urloption.
Maybe because people who needed it knew there were better ways to do it, like ipython and Jupyter. I’ve never heard of anyone gushing about the stock REPL.
Now only have to wait for:
- pyenv release
- pycharm update (including terminal)
- 3rd party libraries
to catch up…
Once that happens it’ll be just couple of years until trickles down to corpo I work at :(
We got Python 3.10 in our Hadoop/Spark setup recently. I’m really enjoying those improved debug messages, man.
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You assume that I can access PIP on a big data cluster in a financial institution ;) Even updating packages there requires me to ask for a custom image. I’m a data analyst so I just transform and extract what I can in a way that reduces size of the output and do cool stuff on my machine that has Python 3.11 and access to validated PyPI mirror. ETL that happens entirely on the cluster needs to be so optimised that I don’t need anything fancy thankfully.
Wait how does one make enough money to afford the JetBrains suite? I just do everything in VSCode.
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