Which is the better option + spinning a vm is possible and ltsc the only issue is I have to repirte a windows license for ltsc(and according to Microsoft ltsc was mostly designed for embedded systems) thanks for any help and I decided to post it on the linux community bcs I couldn’t find a suitable place to post it and this is related to linux but man I love linux tho and if I go with the jumpship method I have to sadly leave some games behind like roblox (it’s fine due to some moderation issues bad games etc etc but ngl its a fun game ik sober exists but i kinda dont wanna use a android emulator to play roblox i could use it since its our only option for linux and also i need to wait some time for my affinity subscription to end orrrr i try running it on bottles/wine again)
Edit: I have delete roblox due to 2 reasons one to ease deleting windows and their management
Edit 2: i might test first If I ever boot into my windows disk to see if I need it anymore
Jump the ship, I did 6 years ago, before even proton was a thing when games worked witha lot of thinkering.
Nowdays you habe so many great games working you won’t mind a couple of games not working because of all the other playable games.
Oh yeah true I can run most of my games I play daily fine( including proton and native but gmod has some hiccups on native linux tho) on my dualbooted partition or in this case separate hardrive (excluding roblox like mentioned in the post)
same here, same time period. everything works. one have to be aware there’s no adobe or autodesk and linux is not windows same as osx is not, and it will not look or behave as windows. beside specific issues for some users, for me it works flawlessly.
one thing cannot grasp is willingness of so many to dual boot.
No autodesk, but if you have the budget you can use Siemens NX (version 12 or before) on Linux. They have install media for SUSE or RHEL. I found it more performant on Linux than the W10 install
Did you write “thinkering” on purpose? Because it’s fantastic.
6 years ago Proton was a thing. It worked out of the box with Steam games like it does today. Yes not everything was gold rated on protondb but it worked fine. I’ve been gaming on Linux since 2018.
Proton came into existence in the later part of 2018, I jumped to linux about half a year before proton came out, so probably closer to 7 years now.
When I left for Linux I had to give up League of Legends. I sucked it up, & after a month, I was fine without it & it was better since I knew it wouldn’t be worth the effort even trying to install it on Linux.
Another point for Linux
I am happy Arcane is good tho. Knowing the characters makes it a more fun & engaging. They built some good art & lore.
Arcane is a fantastic series, eagerly awaiting the next season. Even my sister is into it (and as far as I know she has no clue what League of Legends is)
i am trying to give up roblox preparing for 4 months to a year why a long time you might ask bcs am currently waiting for the 6 month trial to end.
LoL is addicting & sucks your soul out; Roblox does this while making child labor on their platform on how the games are built & monetized inside their platform. It is pretty gross.
And the 6 months is for affinity but yeah ruben sim explains what’s wrong with roblox pretty well
Why wait? Start using Linux friendly software in your day to day workflows. Then start to dual boot Linux with your current system and start using it more and more. By the time windows 10 reaches EOL you will know if you still need a Windows install or not.
I am already dualbooting I discovered most of my software I need work first I need to get rid of affinity suite since it’s a trial and then I can get rid of roblox if I start becoming bored of it for multiple reasons(rubin Sim explains this well)
While it’s a pain to setup, Affinity does work in Bottles and a specific build of Wine. Not easy to do, but it’s possible.
I tried it but it was buggy
Pretty stable from my testing, outside of a few crashes when I was asking too much of it.
That said Inkscape/gimp/kirta are good alternatives if you are in the market.
inkscape i used to used for svg,krita for art and stuff,and gimp its kinda annoying to use only using it for a few seconds and yep there is no ctrl + z undo (i hope gimp v3 fixes this) + I kinda like free software bcs i dont need to pay for it.
I might try this again fully in bottles on second thought, i will try testing if i ever switch to windows till November.
Here’s the guide I used: https://www.standingpad.org/posts/2024/06/affinity-on-linux/
The only thing I did differently was I used this yaml to make the container: https://gist.github.com/gnat/8b69cf49b68e2349afe5e8cb5af49bf8
There’s a bit of tinkering afterwards, but it runs.
I wrote a guide myself aswell:
https://rentry.co/affinitylinux
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So, why wait for windows 10 EOL? If you are already mostly on Linux and are planning on getting rid of the last bits anyway? If you really need to you can always reinstall windows on a second disk or in a VM later on if you really need to - no real need to preemptively do that if you dont plan on using it.
on second thought i can possibly leave windows once affinity subscription ended but its not a guarantee
I have windows on another disk bcs I still need windows for some stuff ATM and win10 eol would be the prefect time and bcs I have affinity 6 month subscription that is pushing me back from wiping windows I can also get more disk space with a raid config + I don’t want win11
I was in the same boat as you but I just kept using Linux more and more. I left my Adobe subscription with a bit of time left because I wanted to get better with darktable before the time ran out in case I needed Adobe but I ended up not
even if i didnt wanna use Linux i wouldn’t buy adobe
That’s good
true i heard of their evil practice
The longer you wait, the more distros we’ll have to argue about when you ask for suggestions
I’ve been a dual / triple / god knows how many OS booted since the 90’s.
Windows has gotten into bad habits lately - it’s not staying in its lane. Meaning it hasn’t respected other boot partitions for a long time, and recently there seems to be a lot of people having problems with windows nuking their linux installs.
My strong recommendation is to buy a second hard drive if you dual boot. Then windows can be “over there” - I’ve never had a problem dedicating ssds to the OS. My second recommendation is to do this now, why wait until you’re forced into something? You’ve got a year to learn Linux and get comfortable with it.
oh yeah speaking of other drives its better since gparted doesnt let you merge it somtimes into one linux disk causing you to reinstall
You should set up dual boot now so you don’t get surprised by differences when support ends and you feel the need to switch to an ltsc sku or use Linux.
Don’t wait, prepare!
Keep a hold of windows for a little while so that if something critical comes up that you can’t figure out you have a fallback.
ok prob 4-months/1 year i will keep a hold of windows
A good project between now and then is to investigate the iot sku. It has everything “unnecessary” cut out because it’s intended to be installed on refrigerators and has a much longer support window (2032?) for the same reason.
Support should be in quotation marks. Yes it has security support but applications will stop supporting all windows 10 SKUs long before that
Maybe industry specific stuff like photoshop or something.
Web browsers and normal stuff will keep on trucking as long as the os has a valid root certificate.
the iot sku would be helpful on those edge cases i needed to use windows
The alternative route I took is maintaining a mac computer for when I need to “be normal”.
was my idea but macs are quite expensive
Maybe not as expensive as you think. The classic getting into the mac game choice is the 2012 mbp 12”, which can run a supported macos with opencore legacy patcher and costs <$200 with 16gb ram and an ssd.
The next best starter option is probably to make the big long leap to a first gen m1 air which can be had for ~$400 if you keep your eyes open.
Those are both expensive to me lol, but not the multiple thousands for a new computer.
ohh
Why wait? Dual boot, get cozy, still have the ability to go back to Windows if needed, find alternative apps, and soon enough, you won’t need the Windows partition :) Worked for my partner, my brother, and myself
Why wait? There’s no need for Windows, unless you’re running some super-specialized app. The new versions of Windows already have telemetry and privacy issues, so why just go with minimal security options that MS is selling you? You can do almost everything in Linux just as well, if not better, than Windows does at this point. Start with Linux Mint, which is the most Windows-y distribution and you should be golden.
i already use linux as a dualbooted os, Ngl i agree but i got affinity i need to wait for it to expire (it was 6 mounths)
I use Photopea on the browser when I need something that the Gimp can’t do.
Dualboot definitely, don’t belive anything other than that, taking slow the only good way
plan to wipe windows in the future anyways bcs win11 sucks
Start using it now in a VM. Linux has gotten very user friendly over the years but it’s still a completely different system with different design philosophies. Ease into it now and test the water with different distros
I jumped ship a month ago. Never really used Linux outside of some small school projects.
And my god have I had lots of issues with stuff that didn’t work or it was missing some packages that I had no idea how to get.
I have a colleague that have used Linux for +10-20 years. So having somebody to ask for help is very valuable!
But all the games I normally play is working so I don’t regret jumping ship.
What distro you where?
Iam using mint, because it seemed like a good “beginner” distro
Oh
? It is a perfectly adequate distro?
It’s a easy to use distro, when I was a beginner I loved everything was setup.
I would almost recommend GPU passthrough if you have a dual GPU system and can figure it out. It definitely takes a bit of tinkering, but I like the results: I now have both a Windows 10 (maybe will become 11, maybe 11 LTSC) and a Hackintosh VM. It’s not as good if you only have one graphics card, through. If you’re up for it, I used this tutorial. If it’s an AMD card, though, make sure to check my issue for any steps relating to that.
As for dual boot, get a second drive if you can. I find it helps me avoid a lot of the misery, although I very rarely actually boot up Windows anymore - just a VM if I really have to (which I do for MATLAB because my university is ridiculous and I figure if I’m going to use an evil programming language, I might as well use it in an isolated, evil environment).
if i ever considered gpu passthrough should i get a gt 710 alongside gtx 1650
Something like that. In my setup, I passthrough my RX 580 (my nicer card) and have my RX 550 (a dirt cheap one I got for ~$85 on sale) stay connected to the host.
My experience : jump ships. Dual-boot is unpractical. I dual-booted my PC at first, but that makes you remain on what’s comfortable, and that’s windows. Swallow the hard pill and leave windows behind. If you’re already working mostly with OSS software (surf with Firefox, use LibreOffice, etc) than it’s not that hard.
I used to use softwares like libreoffice,firefox and photopea when i was on windows anyways so yh.
I decided i want affinity got the 6 month trial found out its quite useless but not bad, photopeas can do 90% of it.
If you switch to single boot Linux you can always install Windows in a virtual machine later in a pinch.
Yeah I can spin up some ltsc vm without gpu acceleration sadly I don’t want win11 no thanks 🤮
Something I did that helped make the jump was buying a separate drive to put linux on and removing my windows drive. It makes the act of switching back to windows take more effort, but didn’t remove the possibility altogether.
I also got an enclosure for my M.2 and can use the windows drive as a super fast thumb drive and use that to transfer the files from the windows drive that I care to keep on linux. (none of it is critical, not worth doing proper back ups)
This is a great middle ground suggestion
