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This is really interesting stuff, found it on Hacker News. It’s like WINE, but for Android <-> Linux: https://gitlab.com/android_translation_layer/android_translation_layer/
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Wow this is awesome! Waydroid is insecure (outdated, rootful container), slow in development and only sandboxed on Fedora.
But that they take Newpipe… which is notoriously broken as Youtube tries to block everything…
Other apps are
- OSMAnd~
- OrganicMaps
- Grayjay
- Jerboa, Fedilab, Pixeldroid
- Amethyst, Voyage
Those are really unique on Android
I’m using NewPipe daily and it doesn’t seem broken at all?
You use a VPN?
I use a VPN with NewPipe, no problems. I’m using the NewPipe repo for the app
Ditto here. NewPipe + VPN works fine on my tablet I use as a YouTube machine. The only problems have been when YT messes with stuff to try to block them, and then NewPipe will have it fixed usually within a day. And that doesn’t happen as often as people think.
Depends on what VPN server you use then I guess.
I went from newpipe to tubular since it comes with sponsorblock, but iirc the backend is the same.
No VPN or anything, it works great.
Yes with no VPN it will work easier
It’s most likely watching Youtube with your VPN that’s broken then, not NewPipe. Youtube implemented Captchas for IPs that generate a lot of traffic/a lot of people are using. That’s how they are trying to kill frontends like invidious that proxy the requests. NewPipe by default uses your own IP so it doesn’t have that problem. If you use a VPN IP that a lot of others are using too, you’ll get that same problem though.
Yes I assume this increases many issues.
This might also explain why sometimes the one, sometimes the other app (desktop vs phone) is broken
Which version of Newpipe are you using? You’ll want to use their latest release repository rather than the ‘stable’ one, that seems to make it work.
I get the Nightly from Github
Oh, hmmm, no idea then.
I’ve been using FreeTube on desktop and it has worked great (with VPN)
Freetube uses Electron. The Flatpak is 240MB in size, the Newpipe + Translation layer is 40MB
It also doesnt bundle an often outdated version of Chromium, as found in Electron
But I tried Newpipe Flatpak and it was blocked totally. May have been because of my VPN though. Freetube had the same issues.
Grayjay is king at block circumvention
Good to know, thanks. If the FreeTube flatpak is working for me, I might as well try the Newpipe one if it’s that much better. I guess I just assumed that the translation layer would add CPU overhead.
I’ll have to look into Grayjay. Is there a flatpak? I’m on immutable, so flatpak is much preferred.
Newpipe flatpak is totally broken XD
but it is more efficient, the translation layer is not an issue.
Actually, I am not sure what LocalSend and ConverterNOW use but those also look kinda like Android apps with GTK decorations.
Grayjay is android-only but a really nice cross-platform player. It is a framework with plugins, for nearly all streaming services… apart from Peertube??
Newpipe works perfectly fine with only small issues sometimes. OrganicMaps is available on flathub
The OrganicMaps for “regular” Linux is very different from the Android app though. Completely different UI tech (Qt vs native Android widgets) and lacks important things like turn-by-turn navigation.
in what situation would you need turn by turn navigation on Linux???
This is great. This gives me hope for Linux mobile 🙏🏽
Interesting concept, if it gets good enough I hope ubuntu touch adopts this because I’m not a big fan of waydroid.
[Genuine] Okay, why when Freetube exists though?
People who are used to NewPipe can use it
Also this is more of a testament to Android on Linux rather than NewPipe on Linux
Ah, okay. Thanks for explaining!
This is not about Newpipe itself but more that fact that this is an Android app ran on desktop Linux, without any containers like Waydroid does. This is like Wine, but for Android apps.
Thanks for explaining!
FreeTube doesn’t always have 4k. I don’t remember which format, but a video has to be a certain format to show as 4k. Majority of videos that are shot in 4k show as only 1080p on FreeTube. I welcome new pipe to linux and will actually be using it
Well, good news the newest update to Freetube now adds 4K+ support since they changed the library used to get the videos or something. I have tested it and the video says 4K and seems to be that. Feel free to correct me if you try the latest update and find any discrepancies.
That’d be great then. Will be checking soon. Thank you
It has indeed been fixed, and I love it. Thank you
Yay! Sure, we are happy to help!
How is ATL’s architecture different than Waydroid’s?
I guess it’s running a free ART implémentation? As Android runs on Linux there’s at least no kernel translation layer to do
Wow
finally a non electron yt client, i also have another question does sober use the same method.
Sober uses the same method as
mcpe-launcherwith android minecraftOh
really buggy on fedora kinoite
Well yes, it’s still early days and very much WIP. But the fact it works at all is amazing and shows what can be done with more work.
It didn’t work on my Arch (btw) nor Fedora
It won’t show a file picker for importing subscriptions so rip