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Nemeski ( neme@lemm.ee )  to Linux@programming.dev · 2 years ago

Russia Mulls Forking Linux in Response to Developer Exclusions

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Russia Mulls Forking Linux in Response to Developer Exclusions

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Nemeski ( neme@lemm.ee )  to Linux@programming.dev · 2 years ago
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Russia plans to establish an independent Linux development community after the removal of Russian contributors from Linux kernel development.
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  • adr1an ( anzo@programming.dev ) 
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    Dear all, please remember that engaging with trolls can get you banned (rule of thumb, half the time the offender gets for themselves)

    Write what you want others to read, I don’t care if there are disagreements. But go get a private chat room if you want to exchange insults with them :)

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    They expect the special operation to take only a month.

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      The thing is, there is no way for the US and British to swoop in and declare unlimited military support for the opposing side in exchange for mineral rights and financial predation on its industry and state assets.

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        Sir, this is a Wendy’s.

        • Carnage Sleuth ( griefstricken@lemmy.ml ) 
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          Oh, was I the one who brought up the war in Ukraine over Linux? No, that was Reddit brigaders infecting every topic they mentally associate with it, as usual.

          Sir, this is a Kernel. This is not the United Nations.

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        The real challenge facing a kremlin linux fork isn’t opposition, it’s deciding what to do once they realize there aren’t any maternity wards in the kernel they can shoot ballistic missiles at.

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          • moomoomoo309 ( moomoomoo309@programming.dev ) 
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            I think you may have misread the message you replied to. The message you replied to was implying the Russians wouldn’t know how to deal with the kernel because they can’t shoot missiles at it. That’s the opposite of what your reply implies.

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          I think you’re confusing with israel.

      • Dr. Wesker ( wesker@lemmy.sdf.org ) 
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        It’s a Linux fork.

        • Carnage Sleuth ( griefstricken@lemmy.ml ) 
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          That’s what I’m saying, associating it with the SMO is just liberal Russiagate brainworms manifesting over every issue related to the country. I wasn’t the one to bring it up.

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            This is a thread about a Russian fork of Linux.

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              Yes, and if Russia is solely defined by the war in Ukraine to you, you don’t even understand how their government works. It’s pure jingoism. Are these people who decided they are Linux superfans the day that Russian maintainers were kicked out so comfortable with the idea that only Western governments should invest in open source technologies? This kind of thing should become a public utility.

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                It’s funny because it’s not a realistic expectation.

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                  We discussed that “expectation” already, and how hopes of diplomacy with Ukraine evaporated officially with Boris Johnson’s visit. Of course, behind the scenes it was already hopeless since 2014. They just took time to prepare for sanctions.

                  Rather than discussing the prospect of the development of Linux as a public utility by a diverse array of nations and groups, you show up to cheerlead for western tech monopolies and the intellectual apparatus. You jeer. You hoot. You’ve got your burger in hand.

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    Go for it. That’s one of the benefits of being FOSS, and other countries have their own versions of Linux already (that meet whatever dumb authoritarian rules are required).

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      • Possibly linux ( possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ) 
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        I’m pretty sure Android isn’t North Korea.

        Although what do I know.

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    Ok, that was always allowed!

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      I wonder what they’ll call it. Will they keep the “Linux” name?

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    Okay then, that was always allowed

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        Lemmy.ml radiation is leaking again

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            Nah thinking that Russia gonna somehow grow using inexistent money for R&D and compete with US(?) Is pretty moronic also calling them forking the kernel as “blowback” it was clear for everyone that they would do that, except Lemmy.ml I guess, so yes I like my echo chamber of less delusional people

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              • Vilian ( Vilian@lemmy.ca ) 
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                God, did I started a discussing with ChineseGPT 💀

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                  See, you can’t refute anything I’m saying. It’s pure jingoism all the way down. Everyone you disagree with is a foreign enemy and a robot.

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            They took my third party apps. I’m here now.

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                Reddit refugees

                Calling them refugees is an insult to actual refugees.

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                One thing neo-liberals and dictator loving pretend-communists agree on: Reddit is a cesspool.

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        My god what an embarrassing take

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          And yet you can’t summon even the slightest opposition to the take, only whine about how you don’t think it should exist.

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            Your take needs evidence to prove that Russia indeed has the low-end chip market captured.

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        Pick GDP, manufacturing output or whatever metric and look it up: Russia is not even close to the US. China is the one playing in the same league as the Americans.

        As for open source being dominated by the US, the stats for Linux development don’t give that portrait at all.

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        I dunno about all that… but I guess it’s a positive that you’re at least acknowledging that this is about sanctions and not racism or some other stupid bullshit.

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    regardless, a country should maintain their own fork regardless if its being used for government computers.

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    Only possible because its FOSS. Hopefully this shows more governments why FOSS is awesome.

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      This will only show the idiots over at Western governments that FOSS is hurr durr bad, lets Ruskies evade sanctions

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    I would be very surprised if such a fork would diverge from Linux. I would guess that this would be little more than a branch with (most likely) support for Russian hardware. Just my hunch.

    A legitimate hard fork doesn’t seem particularly smart to me, but what do I know…

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      “I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, Rus/GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Russian Federation plus GNU plus Linux minus Linus.”

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      It’s not about a divergent featureset, it’s about making sure Russian businesses can continue to legally use Linux if the US decides to make that the next step

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    In Russia, Linux forks you!

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    Ru-nix

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      Cosmo-nix

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        Move the emphasis and we have a deal! Cos-monix

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    The bad kerning in that cover image text cannot be unseen

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    why wouldn’t they just contribute to kylin, considering russia and china’s allyship?

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    Was wondering if something like this would happen

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