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- usa@lemmy.ml
Just putting this out there, please don’t kill the messenger…
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People still post to twitter?!
Emboldened a bit here…as long as I’ve been alive, the Dems have all too often struck me as being spineless cowards, always playing defense, always veering too far to the right in an attempt to curry favor with a part of the American public that was never going to vote for them in the first place, and I’m sick of them losing. Whether it’s a progressive takeover of the party, a mass defection to the Greens, or even just better messaging, something’s gotta change. Instead of blaming, let’s try to find a way forward. I suggest that we should also wait for all the facts of the election to come out before we try to interpret them.
EDIT: I think Bernie showed that the left has a way forward; at first I was convinced that he’d be laughed off stage, but he wasn’t! Quite the opposite in fact! I believe that there were a lot of Trump voters who would have voted for him had Hillary not been the nominee. He’s too old now unfortunately, and needs a political heir. Would going more to the left help the Dems? Would it make things worse? I honestly don’t know, but I think going more left is at least worth a try. At this point I’m planning on leaving the Democratic party and going Independent; we have open/semi-open primaries here, so it’s really more of a symbolic gesture than anything else. If I can vote in the Green primary I could maybe help to get rid of Jill Stein and nominate…someone else.
EDIT EDIT: Also, I suspect that many of the folks who went for Trump this time are going to be really sorry they voted for him, but who knows.
I’ve been carrying a tinfoil hat around for a while now - I think big D Democrats like Trump in the same way the Republicans like being the minority party, because it gives them both something to point at while they pick our pockets. Any party that was serious about defeating a fascist threat to the United States would have immediately stopped arms sales to Gaza when constituents polled 20 points in favor of ceasing the genocide in Palestine. Yet again Democrats played to money from Lockheed Martin and Boeing and Raytheon, and told us to hold our noses, and yet again enough voters told the DNC to fuck off by refusing to go to the polls for candidates who wouldn’t represent them, and yet again we ended up with Republicans controlling all three branches of government.
If we even get another election in the states, the Democratic party needs to cease to exist so that a more progressive group can actually represent the people. And I know that sounds fucking insane, but the best case scenario if the Dems are still relevant in 2028 is that the pendulum swings back and they continue to sit with their thumbs up their asses waiting to lose again four to eight years later after once again disrenfranchising their base.
A party more concerned with defeating the hippies than their actual political opponents deserves to lose, and as we have seen now, will. The DNC is a waste of effort. Not to promote the Greens, they’re an asylum where the inmates have taken over and Jill Stein is too smug to win a PTA vote, much less the presidency. We need an American Labor party that actually wants to win more than make friends in the beltway.
Does anyone besides me ever wonder if the DNC’s been infiltrated by GOP moles? You otherwise have to work pretty hard to attain that level of cluelessness.
What we functionally have as our two-party system is the NSDAP and what the GOP was lying about in the '60s.