I am a 23 year old female with a IQ of 76. Ask me anything

  • Zozano ( Zozano@lemy.lol ) 
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    For what it’s worth, free IQ tests are notoriously bad for evaluating general intellectual capacity, and tend to evaluate visual pattern recognition.

    On top of that, you can learn how IQ tests are evaluated and score higher on them in a matter of seconds.

    For example:

    The answers are in the diagonals.

    For this example, on the diagonals are the number of dots.

    For this example, on the diagonals are the arrow directions.

    Having this knowledge can easily boost your IQ score by 10.

    In any case, intellect has many different facets; memory retention, memory recall speed, emotional intelligence, motivation, visual/spacial, verbal, etc.

    There are people who are Mensa certified geniuses who can’t hold a conversation to save their lives, or boast to others about their score, which is… really dumb.

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        I just found this video by him.

        It perfectly encapsulates what I’m talking about, when I say motivation is a part of intelligence. A raw IQ of 150 is functionally useless, and letting that potential go to waste is… really dumb.

        This guy Mark, is motivated to attain gainful employment so he can sustain himself, and is trying to improve his intellect in the meanwhile, which demonstrates a intuitive wisdom most people lack.

          • Zozano ( Zozano@lemy.lol ) 
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            I watched a few of Marks videos and I’m not convinced he is as stupid as he believes himself to be, just read the comments on his videos.

            Through my life I’ve been told by people I’m smart, which gave me an ego, and lead me to being an asshole to people I deemed less intelligent.

            Later in life I began to resent the association, and I almost reflexively deny any assertions that I am anything other than slightly above average.

            As aforementioned, getting stuck on how intelligent you are is the wrong metric to evaluate your personal worth. I wish that instead of being told I’m smart, that people praised me for my effort.

            For example, if there was a word I’ve wrote which you don’t know the meaning of, look it up - that’s a very simple way to improve your vocabulary, which helps to improve how you navigate your own mind.

            I feel that encouraging growth is far more important than telling someone they have some kind of innate talent, and it’s something I live by.

            If I can offer one resource for you to study to “have a higher IQ”, it’s learning about logical fallacies.

            To put it simply, people are stupid because they fail to recognize flaws in their own thinking. With the link I’ve given you, click on each fallacy and try to think of a time when you’ve committed that fallacy.

            It can be a bit wordy, so don’t worry if you don’t entirely understand the definition. Try to infer the meaning by reading the examples in bold at the bottom of each fallacy.

            Even very intelligent people are not immune from logical contradictions, so don’t be disheartened if you begin to recognize you’ve got some bad habits.

            And whatever you do, if you notice someone else committing these fallacies, keep it to yourself. Too many people learn basic epistemology (study of knowledge itself) and think they’re capable of debating others by dismantling the other persons arguments by citing their fallacies. This is… (say it with me)… really dumb!

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                I’ve tended to score suspiciously high on most aptitude/iq type tests my entire life (70s kid, among the earliest ADD diagnoses, etc) and tbh i think I am quite a lot dumber than those tests imply.

                Show of hands all y’all “talented and gifted” kids that never did nuthin …

                *edit: to be clear, I don’t think ‘raw intelligence’ or anything similar necessarily confers a lot of life benefits. It can, but doesn’t always or maybe even most of the time.

              • Zozano ( Zozano@lemy.lol ) 
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                Absolutely, though I wouldn’t say it’s an opposite Dunning/Kruger, just that smart people are further along the x-axis.

                Having the knowledge to understand how much you don’t know is both a blessing and a curse.

                The curse: It is hard to project a true sense of authority, because to yourself, you do not believe you’re competent enough.

                The blessing: humility. You understand that everyone fits on the graph somewhere.

      • sit ( sit@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        Googling Mensa: Mensa international:

        This online test gives an indication of general cognitive abilities, represented by an IQ score of between 85 and 145, where 100 is the population average.

        Did you take this test? If yes, how was your result below the lowest value?

  • An important aspect to remember about IQ scores is that they are not meant to be a measure of how intelligent you are, but more about how you process information and, thus, how easily/quickly you learn new information. You’re still “intelligent,” it may just take you a little longer to “get it” when learning new things, though. That’s ok, as long as you’re learning!

    Also remember that an IQ score is a predictor of performance, not a limit.

    • I'm_All_NEET:3 ( SpaceFox@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      Thank you, I had a lot of people complimenting me on my English and grammar and saying that I can’t be low IQ. I love those comments. It has taken me a lot of effort to improve on my English which is hard with dyslexia. I’m proud of the progress I’ve made in the past 5 years. Modern technology helps the lot. The voice to text feature on my phone is a big help and writing down words I can’t spell also helps.

        • I'm_All_NEET:3 ( SpaceFox@lemmy.ml ) OP
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          Why am I the way I am? Why can’t I just be like everyone else? I hate having learning disabilities. Every day of my life I wonder what my life could have been if I didn’t have all these things wrong with me. It feels like I was never meant to be born. I hate the person I am.

          • You said in another comment that you deal with misinformation online by just waiting for it to get debunked.

            I have completed a masters degree at university. An IQ test showed my IQ is higher than 130. People around me consider me a pretty smart guy.

            I have never even thought of your way to deal with misinformation. It’s the simplest thing too, just wait. It’s brilliant too, because it almost never fails and anyone can do it without any practice or training. The source of the misinformation doesn’t matter, if it was spread via the news or on a forum online doesn’t matter… It always works.

            It might actually be the perfect solution to this problem. And I never even thought of it! When I read your comment my first thought was “Oh my god that’s brilliant”.

            You might not be very intelligent. But you do seem wiser than most. Everyone has their own shortcomings, their insecurities, stuff they hate about themselves. For you it’s your intelligence, for others it is how athletic they are, or their looks, or maybe they really want to grow a beard, they think they’re not sexy enough, not nice enough, want children but can’t have them, or maybe they wake up worrying about their micropenis every day.

            I can’t tell you to just love yourself and who you are. I know it’s not that simple. Looking at this in a different way than you probably have all your life is not easy!

            I can only offer you this: my girlfriend has an uncle with a severe learning disability, severe autism and he also had a stroke when he was young. He went from an already not very smart carpenter to effectively a man with the brains of a five year old, unable to drive anymore and not able to do his job anymore.

            He had to be placed in a care home. He “works” by folding envelopes or sorting lego pieces. And someone needs to explain that to him too, almost every day, again and again.

            His brother, my girlfriends dad, is what I can only describe as a shithead. He was violent to her, ignored her wishes and was just cruel. She was traumatized by her youth, because her mother died young because of an accident and he quickly married again, to a total bitch this time. She hates her dad with a passion.

            This uncle however is not violent. Never has been either. If another person who is in the care home hits him (some are sadly aggressive and get angry easily), he doesn’t react back. They told him he can push them away, but he refuses. They sent him on a self-defense course, which he did, but he refuses to use what he learned. He says he doesn’t want to.

            There isn’t a fiber in that man’s body that is violent. He is never angry with others. He is always happy to see us and enjoys the little things in life.

            I consider him a good man. I consider him better than a lot of people I know who are perfectly normal. And that’s probably what he will be remembered for: that he was a good person.

            Your friends aren’t your friends because you’re not smart. They probably just like who you are. And if my girlfriend’s uncle can be a good person and happy in life, then I believe that you can be too.

            I wish you all the best.

      • It’s an accurate description based on what I learned while earning my degree in psychology.

        Honestly most metrics in psychology aren’t useful individually. But Pop Psych doesn’t teach you that because then they couldn’t sell you on these online IQ tests that are completely invalid to begin with.

        • Umbrias ( Umbrias@beehaw.org ) 
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          there is cultural inertia and systemic racial biases that encourage its use in psychology as well. we agree it’s not useful individually, but it’s also not useful for populations, as it doesnt measure the things it is regularly and pervasively used to represent. even moreso iq at a population level is absolutely rife with cultural and systemic biases that make it easy to mistest even for those very well informed and well intentioned. We simply dont have models of intelligence mature enough to do this sort of intelligence metricising. Just because someone can envision an experiment or useful pursuit doesn’t mean there are tools necessary to perform it adequately.

          • Thank you for expanding on your position. I’d say that’s a pretty accurate assessment with IQ and other psych tests from what I learned and saw in college/internships. Psychology is a soft science, and I didn’t like the idea of trying to gauge things like “intelligence” (What does that even really mean?) on a numbered scale. I was more of an abnormal/forensic psych student.

            Probably for the best I ended up in networking - I’ve got shit people skills.

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              Yeah i have found that a lot of the frustrations about soft sciences come from my last point, well intentioned people trying to do experiments that we simply dont yet have the tools to perform as well as they need to be. interesting about the career path! i am not super closely familiar with the field so itEs always interesting to hear where people end up!

  • zaza [she/they/her] ( zazazaza@lemmy.ml ) 
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    How did you find out about Lemmy? It seems it’s mostly a niche place for tech nerds and commies and you don’t seem to be either? Also what keeps you here? Wouldn’t the NPD push you towards more popular platforms?

    Sorry for asking so many questions - your experience sounds very unique and you actually seem very eloquent and thoughtful.

    • I'm_All_NEET:3 ( SpaceFox@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      “How did you find out about Lemmy?”

      I looked up Reddit alternatives and it came up. Reddit has a bad reputation and it’s got too many rules. It’s impossible to post anywhere cuz you never have enough karma.

      “It seems it’s mostly a niche place for tech nerds and commies and you don’t seem to be either?”

      Well, I was pretty interested in programming a few years ago because of game modding.

      “Also what keeps you here?”

      Same things that keep me anywhere. Interacting with others and the interesting communities.

      “Wouldn’t the NPD push you towards more popular platforms?”

      It has been proven that people with NPD use social media more. I’m no exception I have accounts on Instagram, TikTok, YouTube, twitter and SnapChat.

      “Sorry for asking so many questions”

      It’s no problem that’s what I’m here for.

      “your experience sounds very unique and you actually seem very eloquent and thoughtful.”

      Isn’t everyone’s? And thank you I’ve worked on words and spelling for a while now.

  • monobot ( monobot@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Thank you for this AMA it is very interesting to get your viewpoint.

    I have many questions, feel free not to answer them if you don’t like them.

    When have you discovered that you are different? What happened? Why did you take IQ tests?

    Can you share story about something that is different between you and average people?

    Is your memory worse or just the thinking process?

    Do you have any idea why your IQ is so low? Is it just coincidence or something happened while you were young?

    How can I recognize that someone has low IQ? How should I act when I meet someone with low IQ, should I use simpler sentences or simpler ideas?

    Thank you.

    • I'm_All_NEET:3 ( SpaceFox@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      “When have you discovered that you are different? What happened? Why did you take IQ tests?”

      I was always slower then other kids my age. When I was 14 I was made to do an IQ test by the teachers in my school when I discovered my IQ at the time was 73.

      “Can you share story about something that is different between you and average people?”

      There’s plenty. When I was 18 somebody asked me how to spell something and I just couldn’t spell it and I broke down in tears. It was pretty embarrassing.

      “Is your memory worse or just the thinking process?”

      I think it’s both. My memory isn’t very good and my thinking process is very limited.

      “Do you have any idea why your IQ is so low? Is it just coincidence or something happened while you were young?”

      I think my mom drank while she was pregnant. Which explains why I’m different then my brothers and sisters. I don’t know if that’s true though maybe I just lost the genetic lottery.

      “How can I recognize that someone has low IQ? How should I act when I meet someone with low IQ, should I use simpler sentences or simpler ideas?”

      Not really, IQ isn’t immediately obvious like other disabilities and if you meet someone with low IQ just speak and treat them like there anyone else.

      • monobot ( monobot@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Thank you for sharing your story, it must be a difficult life. Life is hard with 120, I barely make it, I can not even imagine your case especially together with NPD.

        I have seen your other AMA about NPD, and I can understand “trauma”. I “only” had really bad decades long depression and anxiety and have found way out of it with good therapy (which is rare).

        Good luck to you, I hope you will have some luck further on.

        • I'm_All_NEET:3 ( SpaceFox@lemmy.ml ) OP
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          Thank you for your understanding. I don’t think all mental illness’s are caused by trauma. I don’t know where my NPD or HPD came from. I really wish I could be like everyone else. I feel like I’m being sabotaged from within.

  • Allero ( Allero@lemmy.today ) 
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    A gentle reminder that about half the population has their IQ below the average (“about” because average≠median, yes, nerds, I know)

    Having it below 100 is nothing to worry about, just like having anything below average is.

    • I'm_All_NEET:3 ( SpaceFox@lemmy.ml ) OP
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      It takes me a long time to get used to patterns. If I don’t completely focus on one thing I forget about it. I get information mixed up easily and I forgot the little details about things. Sometimes I forget what I’m doing all together and I get overwhelmed easily.

      Luckily I use my phone a lot to write things down which helps and if I don’t do that I just write things down on my body.

      • maliciousonion ( maliciousonion@lemmy.ml ) 
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        Have you given audiobooks a try? You can also start with books with simple words, slowly understand it over the weeks with a dictionary by the side maybe.

        Some books are fun! Try them if you can, at your own pace :)

        • I'm_All_NEET:3 ( SpaceFox@lemmy.ml ) OP
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          It’s never really crossed my mind and yes I went to school I did read books with simple words in them but the problem is I never slowly understood them and a dictionary is the pinnacle of a book I can’t read.

          Know some books can be fun like coffee table books.