•  Gork   ( @Gork@lemm.ee ) 
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    Funny how the politicians and the media react with horror, but the entire rest of the Internet has an entirely different reaction. I wonder why.

    •  yuri   ( @yuri@pawb.social ) 
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      at the same time tho, this is legitimately the worst thing i’ve seen/heard about him. i wouldn’t be surprised if he was currently being groomed for a presidential run fucken 4 years from now.

  • Whether or not this is accurate about Tim Walz, it is accurate to say politicians, elected and appointed officials regard the ownership class as peers and vice versa.

    This is also true regarding the upper management of news agencies, which figures in liberal or left-wing news sources that won’t go far enough left to jeopardize a status quo in which the agency and its owners thrive. And yet, they will underestimate the right wing and its willingness to let the leopards eat their faces once they are in power. The recent nods to the Trump transition by WaPo and the Los Angeles Times will not save either agency from Trump’s wrath against press once he is in power.

    The Democratic Party is far right, just slightly more left-wing than the Republican party, and they are still beholden to the ownership class when it comes to campaign contributions, which is how we don’t have four-day work weeks, universal healthcare, social safety nets or any of the features that most developed nations enjoy, because it’s plutocrats that decide what our elected officials are allowed to do, not the public.

    It’s also why communist and socialist are bad words, even though that means the only thing else you can be is a monarchist which is about as anti-American as one can get (at least if you believe the preamble to the Constitution of the United States). We’ve literally been indoctrinated against public-serving government.

    But then it’s time to ask, what is the point of recognizing or serving the state at all if it isn’t to serve the public?

    • Along those lines, monarchist is bad, too. The wealthy in the U.S. are notoriously touchy about being called aristocracy, and I maintain that it’s because nobility not only punctures the meritocracy myth, but also carries with it the idea of noblesse oblige. They don’t want any obligations to the peasants. (Won’t be lauded as a great philanthropist for the dribs and drabs they give to charity, if it’s expected!)

      • Yes, but they’re not satisfied with one-party autocracy, but are at this point looking to pass it along to their next of kin, even when they’re not fit for rule, leading to the Joffrey / Nero / John of England problems that arise with monarchy.

        The name Heritage Foundation spills the whole plot. They want to allow their kids to inherit their legacy and secure an extremely stratified society.

  • Maybe it’s because the guy is a relevant public figure, and if he were to say something along the lines of “the bastard deserved it” he’d face a ton of consequences for it? This is so much easier to do in an online space where you are anonymous, especially in an admittedly echochambery place like lemmy.

    I do recall the Trump’s first assassination attempt, and some celebrities (can’t recall the names right now) did come out and say something along the lines of “shame the guy missed” which made the media start hounding and targeting them, with their colleagues being forced to disavow or kick them from their projects entirely.

    It would be cool if Tim Walz or any influential figure went “rip bozo” regardless though

  • Politicians are almost all sociopaths, not even trying to be funny. Sometimes they do things you like and sometimes they dont, but that never has anything to do with the interests and priorities of citizens. They are just people whose job is acting their entire life according to some doctrine, they dont have real personalities.

    • The political system we live under is rotting. It’s holding us back, suffocating real democracy, and clinging to relics of an era we should’ve buried centuries ago. Why are we still pretending centralized power structures, dominated by presidents and parliaments, are the best we can do? It’s time to turn the whole thing upside down. Imagine power flowing not from the top down but bubbling up from councils—real, grassroots bodies in towns, workplaces, and universities where people directly decide what matters to them. No presidents. No untouchable elites. Just democracy as it was meant to be: local, participatory, and alive.

      Critics say that direct democracy would be too costly and cumbersome in large countries. But that’s a lie told to make us think power belongs anywhere but in our hands. The truth is, it doesn’t work their way—infrequent, clunky referenda that barely scratch the surface of what real participation looks like. But why not councils that meet regularly, that use technology we already have to count votes and hear every voice? Why not frequent, transparent, and accessible decision-making? We have the tools. What we lack is the will—and that’s on us.

      And about the politicians. They’ve turned ruling into a career. They live above us, pocket bribes, rub shoulders with CEOs, and laugh at the idea of accountability. Enough. All representatives should be recallable at any time, earning no more than the median worker’s salary. Partial sortition (random official selection) could ensure even more fairness. It worked in ancient Greece which was (for the free male citizens ofc) closer to actual democracy than the unaccountable neo-aristocratic order we have today, so why not today when we have the formal equality before the law and equal rights, but we know the reality.

      But if no one will be above anyone because everyone will get their chance to actually change something about the world and their life without running into the stone walls of the system, it will be a complete revolution in human relations that will uproot the poisonous root of disdain so many feel for their fellow humans for simply being worse off than them.

      Imagine a system where politics isn’t about who has power but about how power flows and where the needs of the people are actually heard and resolved. Blockchain (and no, I’m abso-fucking-lutely not a cryptobro. PoW is still useful for things like captcha replacements but the whole thing is the biggest example of capitalism’s way of turning useful and promising inventions into means of speculation and outright scams by and large) could be used to make the process more transparent than ever. It’s not the technology that hold us back, but their fear of us using it to take what’s ours.

      Term limits, too. No one should sit in power long enough to forget what life is like for the rest of us. Politics should be service, not a career. If we’re serious about democracy, every single one of us—no matter how “uneducated” we’re told we are—needs to learn how to govern. Because democracy isn’t just voting for the lesser evil every few years. It’s taking the reins of your life, your community, your future. It’s about ruling instead of being ruled.

      Here’s the thing: the ruling class will not go quietly. When we start to take real power into our hands, they’ll fight back. They’ll use every dirty trick in the book to claw it back. That’s how this game works. But if we stand together, if we build a united force that can’t be undermined, if we refuse to let fear or complacency stop us—then they lose. And we win something they can never take away: the power to determine our destiny. That’s what’s at stake. Let’s stop settling for scraps. It’s time to demand the whole damn table.

  •  TheReturnOfPEB   ( @TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com ) 
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    the billionaire surveillance guy wants us all to start wearing glasses that record everything.

    that is to protect the billionaire surveillance guy not to protect the rest of us just like cops wearing body cams is not to protect non-cops. they would even build in a way to remotely disable the bodycams if they could.

    surprise surprise.

    that said seeing United Health’s stock drop more than 25% since open this morning does feel like xmas. I’m all in on them losing money and status and access to protection. but without them having to live in the fear that the rest of us have for decades is a bit of a … i don’t have a word for that.

    •  spujb   ( @spujb@lemmy.cafe ) OP
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      i will believe this if at any point in the near future the man comments on the popular reaction to this event in relation to the need for national healthcare.

      he won’t but that’s what i would believe if he did.