• Hegar ( Hegar@fedia.io ) 
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    Endocannibalism - eating people from your own group -has been practised as a respectful part of funerial traditions by a handful of cultures across the world and may have been more widespread in prehistory.

  • Alice ( Alice@beehaw.org ) 
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    I remember seeing someone get a callout post on Twitter for saying they don’t see an ethical problem with cannibalism if it’s consensual. That’s all they said, and they got dogpiled so hard that they apologized and went to therapy for their “unnatural thoughts”, and the callouts continued.

    Unless several Twitter users plan to give them unrestricted access to their corpse soon, I don’t see why that’s callout-worthy.

    • Cethin ( Cethin@lemmy.zip ) 
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      I don’t just not see an ethical problem with it if it’s consensual. I’d argue it’s the most ethical way to eat meat in that case. We do horrible things to animals without their consent. If someone consents to being eaten, that must be more ethical.

      You can argue it’s disgusting or something, but if you’re arguing with ethics as the basis, consensual cannibalism has to be better than eating other animal meat.

      • domdanial ( domdanial@reddthat.com ) 
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        My biggest argument for ethics is that if it is legal to do, it will be easier to provide incentives for it. Already a problem with illegal substances and such I guess.

        The rich and powerful have a problem where the normally unattainable luxuries/curiosities in life are freely available and boring. It’s why you see millionaires doing crazy stunts, and so many get into illegal drugs or trafficking, like with Epstein and his ilk.

        They can offer money, power, or other benefits to those who don’t have it, and also manipulate the circumstances in their favor, and create a market for human meat. One where the poorest of people could sell their own parts/body, or create parts for consumption if supply drops. Our current system does the same with labor, but that seems significantly less damaging.

        • Cethin ( Cethin@lemmy.zip ) 
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          Your argument is valid, but by the same logic selling yourself for work is unethical, yet we all do it. I agree there is logic to it and the system of incentives is messed up, but I don’t necessarily agree selling yourself for cannibalism is any worse than selling yourself for labor.

          • my solution to this is that selling yourself for labour is fucking disgusting and it’s absolutely fucking insane that we’re all largely fine with it

            i did it once and i feel dirty for having done it, blessedly i live in a luxurious country so i plan on working for a co-operative or charity if at all possible.

      • Alice ( Alice@beehaw.org ) 
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        That’s a good question. I kinda hope they didn’t, because that’s a stupid amount of money to spend to punish yourself for an unorthodox opinion.

  • My main gripe is that humans don’t have much meat on them. It works in a pinch, but the effort needed to eat so far outside of our normal pallette isn’t worth it.

    That said, I would be in favor of letting nature decompose our bodies more. I hate having to waste so much effort on disposing of bodies, especially once I die. I want my body to get torn apart by animals, not buried with holy rites. Mummification is the only burial practice that seems kinda cool. Cremation seems unnecessary, especially if I can get eaten by something instead. Just take what’s useful, chop me up a bit, and throw me in the compost!

  • idk man I think the mental gymnastics go the other way around here. You have to make a shit load of assumptions to consume human flesh safely and ethically:

    • the person being eaten consents to their body being eaten
    • the person has no family or each and every one of their relatives consents and is totally ok with their loved one’s body ending up in a casserole
    • the person has no diseases that can be transmitted by consuming some or all parts of their body: prion disease (brain), AIDS, hepatitis and loads other blood-transmitted illnesses, to name a few obvious ones
    • there are no drugs or medications in the person’s body that could be absorbed into your system (regurgitated meth, yummy!)
    • you have the means to effectively and safely process or cook the body yourself or we set up an entire new industry around mass human body consumption which sounds like the plot of a Stephen King novel tbh

    As some have pointed out here, if eating human meat is your only available choice in an extreme life-or-death survival situation, it would have to do, but unless you also have the means to carve up and cook the body, you’re actually going to consume more energy digesting the raw flesh than what you’re getting in return. Humans make for rather poor food overall, that’s a fact. I would back this up with some evidence but I don’t feel like being put on a list for looking up the nutritional contents of human bodies lol

    • Alice ( Alice@beehaw.org ) 
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      I don’t care for cannibalism but the second bullet doesn’t sit right with me. I always wanted to be composted. My family will hate that, but I don’t think it’s their choice.

      • Sure, that makes sense, but not everybody leaves a will behind or lets anybody know about their wishes when they die, out of ignorance, sudden death, there are a lot of reasons why you may die and haven’t told anyone what to do. Happens a lot with organ donors, for example.

        In lieu of the deceased’s will, the relatives need to make a decision. And, IMHO, this whole cannibalism thing is a lot harder to wrap your head around than having your loved one’s organs harvested to save somebody else’s life, for example.

    • Walk_blesseD ( Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) OP
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      the person has no family or each and every one of their relatives consents and is totally ok with their loved one’s body ending up in a casserole

      Assuming your first condition is already met then nah, a person’s own wishes as regards their own body ought to supersede those of anyone else

  • Dizzy Devil Ducky ( AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee ) 
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    If I’m dead, I absolutely would have no quarrels with people eating my body. Nothing to complain about since I hold no beliefs that when I die, my body needs to be intact for me to go to a heaven like place.

    Also, who cares what any family members would think. It’s my body, not theirs. If I don’t mind people nibbling on my corpse, then I’d hope any family that cares about me is able to respect that wish.

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      To be fair, if you’re dead you’ll have no quarrels with anything. I understand what you mean though. You have no quarrels now if someone eats you when you die.

  • Thurstylark ( thurstylark@lemm.ee ) 
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    Heh, my partner and I have already had the, “I don’t seek it out, but if we’re life-and-death stranded and you go first, sorry, you’re provisions now” conversation.