The billionaire appeared to perform the infamous Sieg Heil salute in support of Trump.
  • spit_evil_olive_tips ( spit_evil_olive_tips@beehaw.org ) English
    89·
    2 years ago

    cheers to the NZ Herald for calling a spade a spade

    the cowards at the “paper of record” NY Times went with “Elon Musk Ignites Online Speculation Over the Meaning of a Hand Gesture”

    BBC: Elon Musk’s gesture at Trump rally draws scrutiny

    The Guardian: Elon Musk appears to make back-to-back fascist salutes at inauguration rally

    if Trump shot someone on 5th Ave these fucking lickspittles would probably give it a “President-involved shooting ignites debate over the limits of executive power” headline

    • MudMan ( MudMan@fedia.io ) 
      10·
      2 years ago

      The conversation is still about this clip and not the actual policy, though.

      Which I’m sure pisses Trump off, so there is that, but it maybe shows the press hasn’t learned anything. And it’s too late for the US, but there is still a far right surge to contain back in civilization, so it’s about time they figure it out.

      Note that I’m not including the UK there, Labour government or not. That BBC headline is at least as shocking as the event itself.

      • Aatube ( Aatube@kbin.melroy.org ) 
        15·
        2 years ago

        nah that’s how you flood the zone. it’s what the camp has being doing for years. announce something batsoot insane, do some publicity stunt that’s also kinda insane to drone out said thing, finish the announced thing, rinse and repeat. Musk learned it when he changed the then–Twitter logo to a Doge to flood against Epstein-related allegations.

        • MudMan ( MudMan@fedia.io ) 
          2·
          2 years ago

          It is definitely standard MO, and both press and online chatter are letting them get away with it, with no indication that will ever change so far.

      • Lexi Sneptaur ( Sneptaur@pawb.social ) English
        10·
        2 years ago

        I wonder if the US comes back from this, launches into a long series of progressive changes in the world’s biggest pendulum swing in centuries, and then all of Europe hits this fascist path it’s already starting in on, will Americans say snide things like “back in civilization”? Or will we know better?

        Probably not.

        • MudMan ( MudMan@fedia.io ) 
          6·
          2 years ago

          I mean, US conservatives are still mocking the French as cowardly, collaborationist and militarily ineffective on account of WW2, so if any of them need a ladder to get down from any high horses they may be stuck on I think I have one in the back.

    • Aatube ( Aatube@kbin.melroy.org ) 
      1·
      2 years ago

      If Daniel Penny had reasonable doubt of intentionally choking that homeless guy to death, then Musk definitely had reasonable doubt of intentionally doing the Nazi salute.

  • Count Regal Inkwell ( VinesNFluff@pawb.social ) 
    27·
    2 years ago

    Said on Mastodon, will repeat here:

    This is the least surprising thing since that thing that wasn’t very surprising.

    To every Yankee reading this, I just hope you guys are like. Safe. Shit’s gonna hit the mega fan over there it seems.

          • Count Regal Inkwell ( VinesNFluff@pawb.social ) 
            5·
            2 years ago

            The most “dangerous” cities are Rio, São Paulo, and Salvador. But the thing about the lethality of those cities? Most of the people who are dying aren’t foreign expats like you, it’s the inhabitants of the samesuch poor areas, surrounded by mobsters and having to just deal with that on a day to day basis.

            For everyone else? The big urban centers are dangerous to your property. Be careless and you will be mugged. Not pickpocketed. Mugged.

            But at the same time Brazil is a pretty large place with lots of different cities. I’ve lived in a medium-to-large city (and NOT one of the famous ones Gringos would know) my entire life and been mugged… Twice. In thirty years. Both were harmless other than the loss of my cell phone.

            • boonhet ( boonhet@lemm.ee ) 
              5·
              2 years ago

              I’ll be honest, your country is really beautiful. I’ll probably want to visit it one day. Not sure I’d ever want to live there though - twice in 30 years is already way more than anyone I know here in Estonia, where muggings haven’t really been a thing since the 90s. I’m way too used to my safe cocoon lol

                • The_Sasswagon ( The_Sasswagon@beehaw.org ) 
                  3·
                  2 years ago

                  I don’t think the US is as bad (in this respect) as media would have you believe. Having grown up in a relatively large dwindling industrial city in the Midwest, visited Chicago very regularly for a time, lived in the southeast, and now in one of the cities often cited as ‘crime ridden’, I know one person who was mugged and they knew their assailants and it was in my hometown which no one would recognize.

                  I have friends from St. Louis and Detroit, some of the percieved ‘most dangerous’ cities here. While they recommend caution or street sense when I visit, I haven’t experienced anything but kindness or indifference from strangers. On the other hand, one of my friends was hit and killed by a car in Detroit, and when I left town in the southeast once, saw a bunch of white power banners on someone’s house, which is kinda a promise of crime.

                  None of this is to say I think the US is better than Brazil or Estonia or anywhere else, I’ve got endless criticism for this country. I mean that the crime reported on is usually exaggerated, and the likelyhood of experiencing the crime that does happen increases as the money you have decreases.

                  And not to make this even longer, but the people with the means to move to another state much less another country are the wealthy. The poor, who are the ones who might benefit most from moving, are unable to, trapped in the cycle here.

                • boonhet ( boonhet@lemm.ee ) 
                  2·
                  2 years ago

                  Hmm, I don’t know if it’s exceptionally nice, but it’s definitely nice. I’ve also visited NYC. Didn’t feel unsafe at any point, though of course I didn’t wander too far out. Walked a bunch around Manhattan and Brooklyn, took the subway a couple of times.

          • Ben Matthews ( benjhm@sopuli.xyz ) English
            1·
            2 years ago

            I’ve wondered through favelas in Rio. Nice people, tasty snacks, fine views (they are on hillsides), some great music. But that was over a decade ago, I heard situation got worse again during Temer/Bolso time, hope it’s improving now.