Hello everyone,
This is kind of a meta discussion, so if it doesn’t fit the community, let me know and I’ll crosspost it somewhere else.
There has been occurrences of people making broad statements against instances, communities, mods or admins. As Lemmy’s recent versions (0.19.7 I think) allow to see someone’s moderation history in a click (see below), I tend to use it from time to time, especially when the person is targeting admins or not that are known to be level-headed and consistent.
If the modlog shows that this person is indeed known to be toxic or arguing in bad faith, I would then post something like “heavy modlog” with a link to the user’s modlog.
It seems like this behaviour could be considered harassment by some people. On the other hand, it allows people to identify directly if that person is arguing in bad faith, the same way very new accounts get regularly called out on their account age.
What do you think?
It’s definitely not harassment lol, calling out someone for acting in bad faith is the only way this comm will ever stay honest. Otherwise it’s just going to become a place for bad actors to whip up some easy bullshit
Thank you for your comment
I think it has merit. If someone is constantly being moderated, it points to a problem user. However just saying “heavy modlog” without looking at the context of those mod actions, can poison the well about people with radical opinions. Sometimes this is warranted, but sometimes not.I can tell you with certainty that if I was inclined to wade into l.w. political comms with my anarchist takes, I would be heavily moderated as well. Hell, even on our instance’s left memes comms ( !flippanarchy@lemmy.dbzer0.com and !leftymemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) I get occasionally down-voted to the ground for riling up the libs.
I think it would make some sense to have a way to see how many different comms have banned that user, and how many different comms have removed their comments. That would give perhaps a better idea
I think it would make some sense to have a way to see how many different comms have banned that user, and how many different comms have removed their comments.
Good point, that’s usually what I instinctively try to look at. Banned from a football due to polite support of their own team? Ok. Several pages of abuse against 15 communities? Not so good.
Yes, but this becomes difficult to parse. The UI should be optimally be crunching that data for you.
There are a lot of things were the UI is subpar 😅
Ye, I’m using Tesseract myself. I’m hoping some other devs can step up. The T dev is actually pretty good at onboarding new ideas like that.
Well now u have to start making value judgements on moderation actions. And that sounds like a whole new can of worms
Nah, we can get at least a general vibe through sheer quantity
I mean, there’s a reason I added a button for “View [User’s] Modlog History” to Tesseract long before any other UI even considered it. Take that as you will. Though I generally just use that as a gauge of whether it’s worth responding to someone than anything more active.
I don’t think it’s harassment, especially if they’re doing something like pretending to be on left while having a modlog full of bigotry
I like it! You get to a situation like
don’t want to be treated like you abuse power? Don’t abuse power
Transparency is a good thing!
Wait modlog of how the use has been moderated or modlog of how the user has enacted moderation?
I though the mod who did the moderation was hidden?
Also modlog of how a user has been moderated could be biased against people who enjoy trolling tankies.
how the user has been moderated
This one
could be biased against people who enjoy trolling tankies.
I think this is more likely to be used to harass people than to actually do anything useful. Modding is a shitshow on Lemmy as most of us have seen, so I don’t really think having mod actions listed against you is meaningful, especially if you’ve been an active user for a long time.
Not to mention the worst actors just rotate accounts anyway.
