- cross-posted to:
- div0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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- div0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
Obviously reporting transphobic comments to a transphobic mod isn’t going to result in any action, so I’m wondering if the admins are going to do anything about it?
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OK that’s the last straw for me. I am willing to give the benefit of a doubt to people, but this is the third strike for this person. So I’ve asked them to move their comm to another instance as they don’t align with our instance values.
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The right call.
Well done!
Fantastic. We can only hope that the lemm.ee team take a similar stance against this user, but I won’t hold my breath.
They already posted on !fediverse@lemmy.world asking for a new instance, so I guess they know that lemm.ee won’t allow it.
Just checked, from the sidebar “No bigotry”
Wahey, good riddance! Thanks for the update.
Please explain what I’ve said that is bigoted? I would go .ee but they don’t allow bot majority communities (I have got an exception for that but I’m checking out the options first).
Assuming you’re genuinely uninformed and confused, trans women do not have any advantages over cis women if they’ve been on HRT. The lack of testosterone affects the body dramatically. You can see evidence of this in the fact that trans women aren’t dominating any of the competitions which have allowed them.
Furthermore, sports were never fair in the first place. Some people are more naturally gifted in various areas than others. There are actually cis female athletes who have been forced to medically lower their natural testosterone levels in the name of fairness, and that’s some Harrison Bergeron shit.
if they have been on HRT
This might actually be the most important thing here: I have no idea how youth sports handle things (and under the current fascist climate competing as a trans athlete surely is nearly impossible), but if they were to compete without HRT they might have an advantage (in specific sports)?
It’s such a small if combination of things that it’s not worth making a fuss over about, but it might be the one case where it could be true?
It depends on where the kids are in their development. AFAB and AMAB kids are functionally identical until puberty starts. A trans child should, imo, be allowed puberty-prevention treatments so that they can choose what kind of puberty they’d like to have when they’re older. And that’s sure as heck not doing anyone favors in the athletics department.
True, and absolutely they should be allowed puberty-prevention treatments
Replace ‘trans’ with any other group, does it sound bigoted to you now? It reads like ‘we can’t have black girls compete with white girls because of the clear advantage in physicality’ you know, the common racist talking point of old?
OK let’s replace trans with another group let’s use men as an example. “We can’t have men compete with women because of the clear advantage in physicality” is this sentence fine?
No. Look into the history of the first woman to run the Boston Marathon and how people believed that the jostling of the running would kill a woman. That is the world that allowed women’s sports only as it’s own category. Some sports like tennis it might make sense on a competitive compromise. But to apply that thinking to high-school sport, which is more about community than competition, it is just clear exclusion.
What clear advantage? Men and women on average have different body structures, yes. That might favour one in one sport and one in another. The blanket statement “men have a clear advantage in every sport over women” is BS.
That would be a stupid thing to say. Except your the only one who said it cos I sure as shit didn’t say every.
Nice strawman.
But also, how gross to round about just say that trans women are men… ಠ_ಠ
It’s just so mind-boggling to me that you can respond to my statement with no critical thinking at all. Do you not even consider the possibility that you could be wrong? I can’t even process that level of arrogance.
I absolutely contemplated the the situation that I could be wrong I then went and read a bunch of peer reviewed journals on the subject including ones sent to me by people here on Lemmy. Then based on reading those articles concluded that I was not wrong.
You my friend are the one too arrogant to contemplate if you are wrong.
What .ee rule have I broken? I haven’t said anything hatefull. Do u enjoy silencing opinions u disagree with?
You haven’t shared any opinions - just hateful falsehoods and bigotry.
Some folk learnt that free and open discourse is the real enemy, and go harder than Scientologists against anyone they percieve as disagreeing with them
I agree. We’re talking about Elon Musk, right?
I reckon so; I’m not a fan of intolerance
Hey buddy,
After reviewing the situation between myself and the admin team, we have decided that the actions taken by the mod in question do not align with how we expect moderators in particular to conduct themselves in the wider fediverse. We will be taken action against the user in question and locking this thread. For any additional concerns, don’t hesitate to reach out to me either here or on Matrix.
Ugh. I’ve been sensing a shift in tone on this instance. And the bowing out of the head admin really didn’t assuage my unease. Now this. I get the feeling I’m going to be changing instances again, which is a shame. This was a good instance for a while.
ETA: Looking into it, it appears this occurred on dbzer0. Probably worth bringing it up there, as well.
I posted here because this is the instance the mod uses, but you’re absolutely right, I missed that it wasn’t hosted on that instance, and will be making a relevant post in our own meta community, thanks
If it makes you feel any better Sunaurus is still around and works on the technical stack, he is just not involved directly with day to day moderation and administration.
Which community is that? Did you report it so that the admins can take charge?
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I reported the comments, but the sole mod openly saying they agree with them is why I made this post, assuming the reports go to them ,and they will blatantly just ignore them
E: I have now also after realising the mod is from lmmy.ee but the community is hosted on db0, crossposted to our own meta
I see. If the mods just tackle the reports, the admins might not see them indeed.
FYI @db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com @unruffled@lemmy.dbzer0.com @EllaSpiggins@lemm.ee @JuiceMachine@lemm.ee @beneeney@lemm.ee
Thanks for tagging in the relevant people, and for confirming that if the mod in question deleted the reports, they probably wouldn’t reach the admin level.
I really hope the other admins act as decisively as db0.
confirming that if the mod in question deleted the reports, they probably wouldn’t reach the admin level.
That’s my guess, I’ve never been admin, and I know the feature was reworked at some point, so not completely sure about that.
I think I remember from the 196 mess that Ada mentioned being able to see reports that haven’t been acted on, but I’m not sure about those that were acted on, even if that action is ignoring. Either way, I’m glad there are meta spaces to bring it up either way!
Yes, I have the same info ha ha. Glad indeed!
If a community isn’t safe for trans people, it’s not safe for anyone. The mob just hasn’t gotten around to abuse you yet.
Please explain exactly what’s so transphobic about what I said?
BTW I went and read through the studies someone sent me in that thread and turns out the graphs from those studies show that trans women are more similar to cis men than to cis women in all metrics.
Maybe sports shouldn’t be the barometer for who gets to particiate in society? Sports are the most acceptable right to strip away from a group, as the right to play a sport isn’t a civil/human right, its particiation in a game. Conpetition is the secondary motivation compared to the primary motivation that people like social games where they can roughhouse.
For a country that loves sports so much people really are being two faced snakes pretending not to grasp the significance of that. No sports today, back of the bus tomorrow. We don’t want to play games with you = We don’t see you as human.
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I blocked all 3 people in that conversation, and the community it came from, that doesn’t mean I’m just going to sit quietly and let a transphobic mod get their way and foster their own little transphobic community, especially since I assume it is against the rules of the instance they’re on.
We need to call out this shit publicly, not just look the other way.
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Yes, an anonymous internet forum, which is open to and used by the public.
I’m really not sure what point you’re trying to make - just let transphobes be? Because fuck that.
Ignorance is the enemy: failing to report ignorance begets ignorance.
Education shouldn’t cease just because the ignorant choose to remain so.
