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American_Jesus ( American_Jesus@lemm.ee )  to Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 2 years ago

Radarr now suggests not to use uTorrent

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Radarr now suggests not to use uTorrent

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American_Jesus ( American_Jesus@lemm.ee )  to Piracy: ꜱᴀɪʟ ᴛʜᴇ ʜɪɢʜ ꜱᴇᴀꜱ@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 2 years ago
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  • richmondez ( Mondez@lemdro.id ) 
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    If it keeps newcomers from making mistakes in client choice it looks like a good thing to me?

    • rijom ( rijom@lemmy.ml ) 
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      But is the statement correct? What’s the story behind uTorrent?

      • unexposedhazard ( unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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        μTorrent, or uTorrent (see pronunciation), is a proprietary adware BitTorrent client owned and developed by Rainberry, Inc.

        That should be enough for any sane person. A proprietary bittorrent client is the worst joke i have heard in a while.

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ΜTorrent

        • The Ramen Dutchman ( lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network ) 
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          An adware whatever should also be avoided.

      • banghida ( banghida@lemm.ee ) 
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        The parent company, bittorrent Inc got purchased by a serial crypto scammer Justin Sun at some point.

        In March 2022, the SEC charged Rainberry with fraud for selling cryptocurrencies Tronix (TRX) and BitTorrent (BTT) as unregistered securities.

        I think the SEC dropped all charges recently because the literal US government got on the payroll of Tether Inc, which basically runs the crypto show. Justin is just one of the appendages to the scheme.

      • American_Jesus ( American_Jesus@lemm.ee ) OP
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        After uTorrent was brought by BitTorrent Inc, they started releasing new shady versions, first added ads then released uTorrent bundle with crypto mining software without user consent

        https://torrentfreak.com/new-utorrent-release-breaks-ties-with-bitcoin-miner-150413/

        • RedSnt ♾️🦋♂️👓🖥️🐧 ( RedSnt@feddit.dk ) 
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          They speedran the enshittification process, so quickly the term wasn’t even invented yet.

  • DebatableRaccoon ( DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Took long enough. uTorrent has been cancerous for a long time now.

    • The D Quuuuuill ( Quill7513@slrpnk.net ) 
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      at least 15 years lol

      • DebatableRaccoon ( DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca ) 
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        I honestly couldn’t say how long. I know I was late to the party on knowing what was going on but even I moved on from it a long time ago now.

        • kusivittula ( kusivittula@sopuli.xyz ) 
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          i used utorrent until a few years ago when i started caring enough to switch. old habit, like over 15 years ago when my mom taught me how to pirate, utorrent was good back then. don’t know why i kept using it for that long, i even had to block ads in it by editing the hosts file…

          • DebatableRaccoon ( DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca ) 
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            I think it just comes down to habit and wanting to keep things simple. The adage “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” exists for a reason, after all. I never even bothered going as far as to trying block the ads. They suddenly appeared for me one day but would never render, the panels just kept flashing at me. It might have been while looking up a fix - I can’t remember - but it was around that time that I also heard about the undisclosed mining issue so I quickly jumped ship. Been happily using qbittorrent ever since and now wouldn’t really be able to swap again thanks to finding a proper dark mode theme for it. So few others seem to have it and I have no idea what I’m doing with theme creation.

  • RedSnt ♾️🦋♂️👓🖥️🐧 ( RedSnt@feddit.dk ) 
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    Only a decade late… Luckily qBittorrent is brilliant. And if qBittorrent somehow wasn’t an option, I might go with BiglyBT - it’s not the easiest on the eyes, but lots of settings.

    • _cryptagion [he/him] ( _cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      To be fair, if you set up a Servar stack, you should already know enough not to use utorrent.

  • LiveLM ( LiveLM@lemmy.zip ) 
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    uTorrent’s brand recognition is crazy, it’s been crap for years and it still the name people who don’t torrrent often recognize.
    Nice change, good to steer the novices away from that junk.

    • ggtdbz ( ggtdbz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      It’s so ubiquitous that for about a second I thought wait what I thought that was the good one until I remembered that I’ve been using qBittorrent for a decade.

      For a time, it just was the client.

  • kingthrillgore ( KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml ) 
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    Transmission has never let me down.

    • Kairos ( LodeMike@lemmy.today ) 
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      Its Single-threaded

    • 大きいBOY ( ookiiBoy@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      True. Sometimes it’s weird about packed files, and cleaning up after itself. Still worth it.

    • Drew ( crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      It gets messed up when downloading files onto a slow smb share but that’s mostly my bad

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      My only gripe was that it doesn’t handle (unencoded) spaces in a URL name, which is probably correct behavior but they’re in the titles of torrents on some sites, so I’d have to manually edit them each time. I ended up just using qBT.

  • Kazumara ( Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ) 
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    I thought people either used the old 2.2.1 version or jumped ship. Had no idea it was still going.

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      Same, I was under the impression that this was fairly common knowledge, but it’s good to have it openly announced by some authority on the matter.

  • Andromxda 🇺🇦🇵🇸🇹🇼 ( Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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    Has anyone even used uTorrent in the last decade?

    Edit: Apparently, unfortunately, yes

    • nova_ad_vitum ( nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca ) 
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      I used 2.2.1 well into the last decade. Every version after that was either pointless or full of some sort of malware.

    • katy ✨ ( cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ) 
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      i still see it in my peers list

  • merthyr1831 ( merthyr1831@lemmy.ml ) 
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    If uTorrent has no haters, I am dead

  • RxBrad ( RxBrad@infosec.pub ) 
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    I’ve always used Transmission, since there’s a Docker container I use that bakes in your VPN-of-choice & a killswitch.

    https://haugene.github.io/docker-transmission-openvpn/

    That said, it looks like it hasn’t been updated in over a year… I wonder if there’s anything else out there that does the same thing as this. (EDIT: Yes. Google brings up plenty of choices.)

    • communism ( communism@lemmy.ml ) 
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      You can set qBittorrent to only use a certain interface, and set that to the wireguard interface of your VPN.

    • madame_gaymes ( madame_gaymes@programming.dev ) 
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      I been using Transmission since it came out 20 years ago. I never understood why you would use anything else.

      It’s FOSS and has the simplest interface with all the options.

      Throughout the years I’ve seen so many of these apps get mass-adopted, then a few years later some issue comes up that makes people mass-exodus to another app and it starts all over again.

      Meanwhile, Transmission has been consistent (and you can self-host/run seedboxes with it).

    • CrackedLinuxISO ( CrackedLinuxISO@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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      I switched from that container to one that uses qbittorrent and a VPN.

      qBittorrent web UI works better on a phone for my use case, and I kept having to manually restart the transmission container whenever the VPN connection dropped.

      • red_bull_of_juarez ( red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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        I run qBittorrent on a server (with a VPN as the only outside connection) and use an open source app to control it from my mobile devices. It can catch magnet: links and torrent files and send them to qBittorrent via its API.

      • merthyr1831 ( merthyr1831@lemmy.ml ) 
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        qbitcontroller is a brilliant app on android. It sends push notifications when your downloads complete and it bundles everything into a brilliant interface for mobile imo.

  • zabadoh ( zabadoh@ani.social ) 
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    There’s a migration program to transfer torrents from utorrent to qbittorrent.

    https://forum.qbittorrent.org/viewtopic.php?t=3224

    I remember using it way back when, and they’ve kept it updated.

    • Something Burger 🍔 ( SomethingBurger@jlai.lu ) 
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      Isn’t it as simple as exporting all torrents as .torrent files, importing them in qB, then pointing qB to the same downloads folder?

      • ChaoticNeutralCzech ( ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org ) 
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        Some people have torrents across various directories or even renamed files in them (yes, it’s possible and useful for crossseeding between trackers with different naming schemes). Of course, this makes migration way more difficult.

  • ctkatz ( ctkatz@lemmy.ml ) 
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    if I still downloaded directly to my local drive, I’d use utorrent BUT only the 2.2.1 version. it’s been at least 4 years since I’ve done that due to a lack of having a functional laptop so I’ve been out of downloading stuff that way for years, but even then I knew that modern utorrent was bad. I actually stopped using any new version once bittorrent bought it.

  • Psiczar ( Psiczar@aussie.zone ) 
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    Why torrent when you can use newsgroups? No need to seed, just download and done. Haven’t torrented for 10 years.

    • Drew ( crmsnbleyd@sopuli.xyz ) 
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      Don’t you need to pay to be able to get access?

      • dan ( dan@upvote.au ) 
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        Depends on how much you download. You can pay a once-off payment for a block of data and it lasts indefinitely. I’ve got a 5TB block I’ve had for over 10 years. I think it was maybe $25 when I got it?

        Edit: If you need more data, there’s plans with unlimited data for a few dollars per month.

      • Psiczar ( Psiczar@aussie.zone ) 
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        Yes, but not a massive amount. I pay annually and it works out to about $7-8 a month for 50mbps of bandwidth and unlimited downloads. Then use *arr apps and sabnzbd to manage everything.

        • boonhet ( boonhet@lemm.ee ) 
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          I mean it’s completely valid if you find that to be a better deal than torrenting, but I can use my full 500 mbps bandwidth for free.

          • Xanza ( Xanza@lemm.ee ) 
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            It depends on how you look at it.

            You pay for your internet. Isn’t that you paying to pirate?

            If it is then it’s only a factor of cost. He pays slightly more for Usenet access and internet access and then he pirates.

            If it’s not then it’s not a factor of cost and it’s only a factor of pedantism.

            • boonhet ( boonhet@lemm.ee ) 
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              I need to have access to the Internet anyway. In fact, having it makes me a decent amount of money. You could say it costs me negative several thousand euros a month. Piracy or scrolling Lemmy is a bonus.

              Getting Usenet means additional cost, but the only benefit is piracy. Therefore, it’s paying to pirate.

        • American_Jesus ( American_Jesus@lemm.ee ) OP
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          So you pay for piracy

          Pay a subscription to watch subscription content for free!

          • Canonical_Warlock ( Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 
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            Yes? If I could get everything in one place then I would happily pay for that. I don’t pirate to save money. Saving money is just a nice sideeffect. I pirate because it’s literally more convenient than juggling 15 different services.

  • Ohh ( Ohh@lemmy.ml ) 
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    I’ll be the one: use rtorrent

    • CarbonBasedNPU ( CarbonBasedNPU@lemm.ee ) 
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      deleted by creator

  • uis ( uis@lemm.ee ) 
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    ruTorrent)))

    Скачал? Раздавай!

  • merthyr1831 ( merthyr1831@lemmy.ml ) 
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    some private trackers won’t let you use uTorrent either, good.

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