Greg Clarke ( @Greg@lemmy.ca ) English50•1 month agoIt seems a little inefficient to put all the airports together
huquad ( @huquad@lemmy.ml ) English4•1 month agoIts really not so bad once you get over the 12 hour drive.
HiddenLayer555 ( @HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml ) English38•1 month agoWhy do they keep allocating land to wildfires if they’re so destructive? /s
troybot [he/him] ( @troybot@midwest.social ) 13•1 month agoThat’s the federal wildfire sanctuary established by president William McKinney. While most fire has been domesticated, the remaining feral fire is allowed to burn free in Utah.
Wahots ( @Wahots@pawb.social ) 34•1 month agoGolf is way too big, imo. No other sport even makes the list here.
Dem Bosain ( @DemBoSain@midwest.social ) English16•1 month agoMaybe we can combine it with “wildfires”.
aphonefriend ( @aphonefriend@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 26•1 month agoSo nice of the 100 largest land owning families to have the same amount of land as the entire urban or rural housing population of the rest of the country. I assume it’s to fatten themselves up for the rest of us just like the cows.
When do we get to eat them again?
ray ( @ray@lemmy.ml ) English17•1 month agoGotta see one of these with parking.
vithigar ( @vithigar@lemmy.ca ) 4•1 month agoIt would be a subset of “urban commercial”, right? Somewhere in the range of half to three-quarters of it?
ECB ( @ECB@feddit.org ) 2•1 month agoDepends how these are defined. Public parking or on-street parking are likely in a different category, not to mention people’s driveways.
apotheotic (she/her) ( @apotheotic@beehaw.org ) English12•1 month agoAnd people will still say that the meat/dairy industry aren’t a plague
Yozul ( @yozul@beehaw.org ) 2•1 month agoWhat? There are lots of legitimate complaints about the meat and dairy industries, but almost all that land being used for them is arid, rocky wasteland that has a cow wander over it twice a year. That’s not actually even on the list of problems with those industries.
apotheotic (she/her) ( @apotheotic@beehaw.org ) English3•1 month agoUgh, I accidentally deleted my previous comment when trying to edit, sorry for the double reply.
Original reply:
You think that the amount of land being dedicated to making food for livestock dwarfing the amount of land dedicated to feeding people is not a legitimate complaint?
Edit: eyeballing it, we use twice as much land (and as a result, water, energy, etc used in the farming process) making food for livestock (ie, food for what will become food) as we do making food for us
Yozul ( @yozul@beehaw.org ) 2•1 month agoNo. No. That’s completely wrong. That’s not what I think, because it doesn’t make any sense. There are no crops that can be effectively and cheaply grown in rocky, arid wasteland. If we weren’t using it to let cattle graze, it would be wild land being grazed by buffalo instead. Now, maybe you could argue that would still be better, but it wouldn’t be growing food for humans any more efficiently. Buffalo aren’t actually any more efficient than cattle at producing meat, and nobody’s hauling water up to into the high Rockies to irrigate rocks. That’s not a real thing that people would be doing if cattle weren’t grazing there.
apotheotic (she/her) ( @apotheotic@beehaw.org ) English4•1 month agoThere is a dedicated section for “pasture/range” which is the grazing space you’re talking about. I am not talking about that. I’m talking about the section for “livestock feed” which is crop growth.
NSRXN ( @nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 2•1 month agoit’s not actually clear how much of that land is exclusively for growing animal feed, and how much of that land is being attributed to animal feed, which is also used for human food. for instance, a soybean is only about 20% oil. about that much is used by humans. The other 80% of the soybean is a byproduct of pressing for oil called soy cake. that soy cake is fed to livestock, but if it weren’t fed to livestock, it would be industrial waste. is 80% of soybean land use to grow food for livestock? no. 100% of it is used to grow food for people, and food for livestock. and we feed cottonseed to cattle, but cotton isn’t grown for cottonseed: it’s grown for textiles. is that land being attributed? I’ve read the article is carefully as I can, and it doesn’t seem to make this nuance at all.
Yozul ( @yozul@beehaw.org ) 1•1 month agoThat’s fair. I guess I misunderstood. Sorry. Yeah, it would be nice if that part were smaller. It’s still not a perfect one to one comparison. Feed crops do actually tend to use less other resources. Sometimes a lot less, depending on the crop you’re comparing them to, but yeah, it’s a lot of land that could be growing things for humans, and there’s more of it than there needs to be. Sorry. You are right about that.
apotheotic (she/her) ( @apotheotic@beehaw.org ) English2•1 month agoAll good, glad we smoothed that over :)
PhilipTheBucket ( @PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat ) 9•1 month ago“Wildfires” is a surprisingly large area. I wonder what the 2025 area for it is.
conditional_soup ( @conditional_soup@lemm.ee ) 8•1 month agoI would love to flip the railroad usage and cow pasture usage.
Also, mfs drinking too much corn syrup.
kibiz0r ( @kibiz0r@midwest.social ) English9•1 month ago conditional_soup ( @conditional_soup@lemm.ee ) 11•1 month ago sinedpick ( @sinedpick@awful.systems ) 6•1 month agobeautiful
Ledericas ( @Ledericas@lemm.ee ) English1•1 month agotheresa tiny part thats for maple syrup
Zacryon ( @Zacryon@feddit.org ) 8•1 month agoSo, if most people are going vegan, there would be much more space for other stuff, yes?
RecipeForHate1 ( @RecipeForHate1@lemmy.ml ) English8•1 month agoGet rid of livestock
MNByChoice ( @MNByChoice@midwest.social ) 7•1 month agoRemember, not all land is the same. Some is too dry to grow human food. Some too wet. There are also other things that land is either too or not enough.
chicken ( @chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 8•1 month agoI bet we could still multiply output by a decent number by replacing meat production with directly edible crops, if there was a need for it
MNByChoice ( @MNByChoice@midwest.social ) 4•1 month agoIt us wild that there is not a need. Distribution is (or was) the issue. Very sad humans refuse to feed others.
Kazumara ( @Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de ) 1•1 month agoToo cold or not enough warm.
MisterScruffy ( @MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml ) 6•1 month agoCan we put the 100 largest landowning families in Florida, then saw it off from the rest of the country?
Ledericas ( @Ledericas@lemm.ee ) English1•1 month agono need to saw, when invasive species and the ocean is taking over. because florida loves to import all the illegal exotic animals, they got plenty reptiles, giant snails, giant rats. the latter 2 both carry nasty parasites.
stray ( @stray@pawb.social ) 2•1 month agoShit, there are landlords in the snails?
HipsterTenZero ( @HipsterTenZero@dormi.zone ) 1•1 month agoGiant rats? I don’t believe they exist
SplashJackson ( @SplashJackson@lemmy.ca ) 5•1 month agoWhere’s the amounts used strictly for cars?
lattrommi ( @lattrommi@lemmy.ml ) English2•1 month agoThe black lines used for borders could be that. I’m not saying it is, just that it might be close to the amount used by roads other than rural highways.
KeenFlame ( @KeenFlame@feddit.nu ) 4•1 month agoMan that guy Urban needs so many houses… What does he even do with them all?