ExtremeDullard ( @ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org ) 176•23 days agoNot to mention the “Governor Trudeau” extra-dumb.
God I hate politics-by-Twitter. I’m appalled that the US is turning into a fascist country, but I’m even more appalled by how pathetic, puerile and trashy the US’ new fascist overlords are. At least Hitler dressed in Hugo Boss and made speeches that enthralled people: MAGA dresses like tramps, Steve Bannon-stylee and bullies other countries like kids on the playground.
takeda ( @takeda@lemm.ee ) 35•23 days agoThat shows clearly that these tariffs are there to distract (yes it they hurt Americans, Canadians and Mexicans, but he doesn’t care) to make media stop talking about Ukraine.
doctortofu ( @doctortofu@reddthat.com ) 3•23 days agoNot to mention the “Governor Trudeau” extra-dumb.
Trudeau is probably above that, but it would be mildly amusing if he started calling Trump “comrade Trump” or maybe “vice-president Trump”
Papamousse ( @Frederic@beehaw.org ) 4•23 days agoHe called him “Donald” and republicans/maga are outraged!!! lol
kia ( @kia@lemmy.ca ) English117•23 days agoIn 6 months, he’s going to be talking about how Canada started this trade war.
He’s basically saying it now. He is calling his current tariff “reciprocal”.
Match!! ( @match@pawb.social ) English64•23 days agothe classic American strategy of preemptive reciprocation
Nay ( @Nay@feddit.nl ) English14•23 days ago“Preemptive Reciprocation” I love it 😝
YesButActuallyMaybe ( @YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca ) 8•23 days agoPremature reciprocation
JuxtaposedJaguar ( @JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml ) 8•23 days agoWeapons of mass devaluation
NotSteve_ ( @NotSteve_@lemmy.ca ) 9•23 days agoI’ve already seen (USian) conservatives claiming that
Mongostein ( @Mongostein@lemmy.ca ) 91•23 days agolol ours is retaliatory but theirs are reciprocal?
Eat shit asshole.
This guy doesn’t even understand those words. They’ve got someone writing his tweets now.
Someone ( @Someone@lemmy.ca ) 75•23 days agoOk it’s starting to feel like a game now. Can we cause American hyperinflation by a targeted tariff feedback loop?
TranscendentalEmpire ( @TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee ) 19•23 days agoTbh, I’ve been pondering just how regulated organized market manipulation is nowadays. With the market going through “corrections” because of tariffs and the FCC being completely defanged, a large group of organized retail investors have the opportunity to get up to some pretty funny business.
SpaceCowboy ( @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ) 10•23 days agoIf by “funny business” you mean raise prices on products that don’t actually have tariffs on them, then it’s a safe bet that yeah, there’s going to be some funny business.
Victor Villas ( @villasv@lemmy.ca ) 10•23 days agoJust take something we import very little and slap a -200% tariff
UltraGiGaGigantic ( @UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml ) English4•23 days ago-200%? The US government pays you 200% of what the import is worth?
Papamousse ( @Frederic@beehaw.org ) 2•23 days agoCanada should add a 100% tariff on USA crude oil that we import (Canada import 0 I guess) and with trump reciprocal thinggy, automatically crude oil from Canada to USA would have a 100% tariff on it lol
wirebeads ( @wirebeads@lemmy.ca ) English52•23 days agoLook forward to the day that orange shit stain is dead. Hopefully tonight.
Americans: Just imagine the White House is an elementary school…
ZeroGravitas ( @ZeroGravitas@lemm.ee ) 14•23 days agoMate, can you imagine president Vance? Careful what you wish for.
ryper ( @ryper@lemmy.ca ) English23•23 days agoIf Vance were president Republican spines would start to grow back. Trump’s hold over Republicans is a major part of the problem.
BlemboTheThird ( @BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca ) 10•23 days agoVance might not be The Guy, but I disagree that removing Trump solves the problem at all. He’s more like the most prominent symptom.
Before 2016, Trump in the minds of most Americans was some washed up reality show star from the 90s. He is, and has always been, an ugly, uncharismatic, racist piece of shit. If the conservative propaganda machine can propel this artificially colored, barely articulate moron to the top, they can propel just about anyone. The only caveat is that whoever they propel has to be willing to do anything, to destroy any international relationship, to flip flop at the drop of a hat, and to not ask questions outside of “how will this benefit me?”
Vance might be a selfish, uncharismatic idiot in his own right, but unlike Trump he does have two braincells to rub together. Fox, Newsmax, Rogan, and the like might not be willing to throw themselves behind that. But there’s no shortage of vaguely remembered, self-absorbed celebrities who will be willing to take his place. Think President Oz, or heck, maybe Hulk Hogan would throw his hat in the ring.
Point is, as long as we have a populace that disrespects education and science, and that’s completely unmotivated to participate in our gerrymandered and unrepresentative FPTP system, the propaganda machine will always churn out a shittier asshole next year. The worst of us will hand them the reigns, and Republicans will follow that asshole without question. Trump isn’t as special a case as people want to believe. We’ve been on this trajectory for decades.
Lodespawn ( @Lodespawn@aussie.zone ) 2•23 days agoYou need to find a way to get the non-voting 35% of the eligible voter population to actually vote.
BlemboTheThird ( @BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca ) 6•23 days agoAnd also vote in their own interest. Near as I can tell, their lack of belief in the system stems from their lack of interest in learning about it as much as its actual flaws. One of the big strengths of conservatives is drawing in first time voters who don’t know jack about squat by playing on their fears–as racist and stupid as those fears may be.
Lodespawn ( @Lodespawn@aussie.zone ) 3•23 days agoYeah but there’s no reason that trick needs to be a fascist exclusive.
wirebeads ( @wirebeads@lemmy.ca ) English18•23 days agoI’m comfortable with Vance also eating a face full of patriotic American made lead.
wise_pancake ( @wise_pancake@lemmy.ca ) 15•23 days agoI don’t think Vance has the charisma or character to keep the MAGA interests from eating each other and him.
hemko ( @hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English8•23 days agoJust need to kill them both
MystikIncarnate ( @MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca ) English1•23 days agoYeah… This.
Don’t get me wrong, if/when Trump dies, it’ll be a day that I’m a bit happier, but if he dies during his presidency, I know he’ll be immediately replaced by someone who is either just as bad or worse.
My only hope with Vance if he takes on the job, is that he’s such a fucking bootlicker that hopefully he’ll spend too much time sucking off corporate interests that he can’t do too much more damage than Trump has already done.
It’s possible, however unlikely, that someone will convince Vance to do the right thing for the wrong reasons (he definitely won’t do it for the right reasons), because someone else told him too… I have no illusions that he wouldn’t come up with the idea himself. He’s just not that bright in my mind.
Geodad ( @Geodad@lemm.ee ) English45•23 days agoAll this could have been avoided if one guy had slightly better aim.
Rubanski ( @Rubanski@lemm.ee ) 23•23 days agoPeople were thinking about that probably a lot in the 30s and 40s
vga ( @vga@sopuli.xyz ) 1•23 days agoThe guy had a pretty good aim. It was down to luck.
I think the shittier part of this is that if that whole thing hadn’t happened, Trump might have not won. He got the best PR of his whole campaign during that one minute.
cheerytext1981 ( @cheerytext1981@lemmy.ca ) 44•23 days agoHe also wants his face on currency. The man is a menace
kent_eh ( @kent_eh@lemmy.ca ) English29•23 days agoHe also wants his face on currency
You have to be dead before that happens.
I’m sure someone would be willing to help
Laurel Raven ( @laurelraven@lemmy.zip ) English6•23 days agoI don’t think there’s any law requiring that
Not that it would matter if there was, mind you, seeing as there’s a whole thing in the Constitution about not having insurrectionists who broke their oath to uphold the Constitution be allowed to ever hold elected office again, and well…
Lemmist ( @Lemmist@lemm.ee ) English2•23 days agoWhat’s wrong with that? I also want my face on some currency :)
circuitfarmer ( @circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org ) 38•23 days agoThis guy is gonna start a war.
ZC3rr0r ( @ZC3rr0r@lemmy.ca ) 72•23 days agoHe already did. Tariffs are an act of war, especially when overtly related to annexation goals (as is the case here).
CanadianCorhen ( @CanadianCorhen@lemmy.ca ) 37•23 days agoEconomic warfare is warfare, just not with guns.
EndofLife ( @EndofLife@feddit.org ) English34•23 days agoTrump doesn’t understand he’s a bitch no matter what he does.
Joker ( @kleb@mastodon.world ) 33•23 days ago@imvii Perhaps since little donny says he does not need anything from Canada we should shut off his electric and oil now. That would be before he could effectively replace it.
I’m down for it.
There is a little buzz that Trump is going to back pedal in a day or two, which would be hilarious. But I think we keep the pressure on even if he does.
None of this back and forth shit.
wise_pancake ( @wise_pancake@lemmy.ca ) 8•23 days agoIf he backpedals I still hope the LCBO donated all that American liquor to the Legion and bars for one ultra liquor holiday.
They pulled the trigger, I don’t want that shit back on the shelves, even if they do call taksies backsies.
useyourvoice ( @lineofkings@lemmy.ca ) English8•23 days agoThey better not put that shit back on the shelves. It’s the 2nd time that we’ve pulled it off the shelves, and we keep putting it back on. FOR WHAT
Perhapsjustsniffit ( @Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca ) 4•23 days agoAgreed. No backing down now. Keep the pressure on and increasing. This isn’t ending any time soon.
hmonkey ( @hmonkey@lemy.lol ) English33•23 days agoFucking impeach this clown, what the fuck are people waiting for?
JuxtaposedJaguar ( @JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml ) 21•23 days agoBeen there. Done that. Twice. Turns out Republicans don’t care.
branno ( @branno@lemm.ee ) English14•23 days agoThe midterms when we can hopefully replace his yes men in Congress.
Che Banana ( @The_Che_Banana@beehaw.org ) 10•23 days agonot gonna fucking make it to midterms
cronenthal ( @cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de ) 31•23 days agoCanadians, join the EU, or at least sign a truly comprehensive trade deal. We have adults you can have actual conversations with.
puppinstuff ( @puppinstuff@lemmy.ca ) English17•23 days agoI have to think all these extra EU visits and Canada weighing in on EU-Ukraine peace discussions means we’re headed in that direction.
SpaceCowboy ( @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca ) 15•23 days agoCanada did sign and ratify a Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (CETA) with the EU like eight years ago. Still waiting for some EU members to ratify it :(
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_Economic_and_Trade_Agreement
Hemingways_Shotgun ( @Adderbox76@lemmy.ca ) English29•23 days agoGod I’m exhausted.
At this point, we just need to cut it all off completely. Oil shipments, electricity, lumber, aluminum. All of it.
I know that that’s a hard ask for those industries that are affected, and if it means the federal goverment has to temporarily raise the deficit in order to subsidize those industries it’ll be crazy expensive and inflation will shoot up. But I’m convinced that that would be only a short amount of time that that would actually be needed.
Let the United States go one week without our stuff. 100%…fuck 'em. They’ll last one week. Maybe two. And when they quit their bullshit, make it clear that we are diversifying our business partners making it easier to pull it from them again anytime they let Trump open is fucking mouth.
Hold our resources hostage against them.
CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 6•22 days agoI mean, if we play all our cards at once, we have no cards left for the next thing, and in the process that might raise enough American political will to invade for real.
It should be and I think is all on the table, though, and I have no problem with it if they want to escalate, because we also need to raise political will to sever our ties for good.
rumba ( @rumba@lemmy.zip ) English5•22 days agowe have no cards left for the next thing,
That’s the game, he’s bleeding you for cards.
If he’s going to attack you, he’ll bleed you first. There is no appeasing him permanently.
CanadaPlus ( @CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org ) 1•22 days agoWe have a deep deck (which is part of why playing the whole thing at once would be kinda nutty). Like every day someone mentions a new way to screw with them I hadn’t thought of. Cutting off power, cutting off water, taking their stuff and not paying, ignoring their intellectual property, cutting off Alaska…
Nobody is talking appeasement anymore, even Danielle Smith is getting muted about it. The question is how to help Trump ruin himself the best, politically and economically.
moitoi ( @moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) 22•23 days agoIt’s like he doesn’t understand tariffs… It’s hurting your country.
If you put a tariff, it increases the price you’re paying. It makes the goods more expensive for your industry and your population. It makes your industry less competitive as your industry has to sell at higher prices.
Then comes the reciprocal tardif what makes your industry even less competitive. Putting more tardif will hurt your industry.
Did he say “he was the champion of the industry” or whatever similar? Well people voted for the person who doesn’t know what 2+2 makes.
SabinStargem ( @SabinStargem@lemmings.world ) English20•23 days agoThing is, America isn’t Trump’s country. Not in any patriotic sense. Far as he is concerned, it is just a random McDonald’s he can ransack and sell off in pieces to whoever can pay him.
Showroom7561 ( @Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ) 19•23 days ago54k likes? These idiots don’t realize that this man child is hurting them, too.
BlemboTheThird ( @BlemboTheThird@lemmy.ca ) 14•23 days agoI’m sure there’s no shortage of actual stupid people, but don’t forget that he’s posting to truth social. Something tells me they lack robust bot detection measures.
madame_gaymes ( @madame_gaymes@programming.dev ) English8•23 days agoThank you sir, may I have another. Harder this time, daddy.