• floofloof ( floofloof@lemmy.ca ) 
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    Even though Trump has now paused tariffs on some products until April, we’re still not about to spend a nickel to prop up the U.S. economy when its president has pledged to destroy ours. We don’t want to be doing any of this, and we know so many Americans who also wish none of this were happening. But this is our reality now.

    Yep, that’s about it. But it’s not just our economy Trump has vowed to destroy, it’s our country.

  • Swordgeek ( swordgeek@lemmy.ca ) 
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    I’m Canadian, and I plan to never visit the USA again.

    Ever.

    There is no “…until” for me. The world without the US is easily big enough for me.

    Two places I always wanted to see were New Orleans and Hawaii. The latter might end up breaking away, but New Orleans is probably off my list forever.

  • I was planning on visiting this year, but now my US travel plans are filed away alongside the Trans-Siberian Railway trip I should have done in the 00s. As much as there are places I’d like to visit, it’d be like going for a city-break to Munich in 1935.

    • corsicanguppy ( corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca ) 
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      Yep. My mom wants to see hanuama bay once more while she can still travel. #reasons. Remembrance.

      We can’t go while it’s under Trump, so we wait until the US stops being weird or until the Kingdom tries to secede. She won’t go before then.

      The odds aren’t good, but we’re hoping she’ll still be good to go then; and know she did.

      Man, fuck Trump and his merry band of dirt-bags.

  • CircaV ( CircaV@lemmy.ca ) 
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    This is gonna last longer then Trnup is in power. This is a real, tangible, long lasting shift in Canada-US relations. That’s not going to be fixed or restored whenever Trump is out of office. There will be a successor to this US isolationist ideology. The faster we decouple, disassociate and diversify from the US in every way, the better.

    • When you consider that foreign relationships take many decades to forge, it’s unlikely that things will go back to the way they were for at least 20+ years.

      If it ever happens.

      And by then, the rest of the world would have already adapted to a life without the States, and many will be better off for it.

    • imvii ( imvii@lemmy.ca ) OP
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      In the article

      As a Canadian, I’m reeling from the unraveling of a relationship I once believed to be unshakeable — a bond between our two nations that felt secure and enduring.

      It’s about the breakdown between two long time allies by one want-to-be US dictator working in the interested of Russia.

      This is a historic moment. The US and Canada will never be the same again.

      • Hemingways_Shotgun ( Adderbox76@lemmy.ca ) 
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        The US and Canada will never be the same again

        As a Canadian I think, if we can weather the storm without Cheetolini going full “annex” mode, we’ll come out the other end better; more diversified and secure in trade relationships, and stronger on the world stage.

        • imvii ( imvii@lemmy.ca ) OP
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          Canada is going to come out of this stronger thanks to Trump. We’re working on improving our in-country trade right now. We’re well liked in European circles and might end up in the EU. We’re building trade with other countries. I’m feeling pretty positive about our future without the US.

          If the US continues to descend into madness, we’re going to be the country the USA brain drain ends up in. That will only help us.

          Of course all of this depends on if the US decides to not go all Russia on us - which is going to wreck both countries.

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    Once you’re on the wrong end of the stick, you understand that the US isn’t a friend. Developing nations and non-white nations have known this for a long time. The biggest thing blinding the population are US media exports. US marketing is amazing, but now, it’s getting harder and harder to market shit.

  • Ashwag ( Ashwag@lemmy.ca ) 
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    I was planning a trip to PA and Las Vegas in 2025.

    Now those have been changed to France and Amsterdam. It’ll cost me much more, however I’m not going to America for the foreseeable future.

  • Last time I was in the US I was in Hawaii in January 2009. Obama was being inaugurated and because of time zones I had to get up early to watch it. Figured it was worth getting up for because it was kinda historical. So I was in the common area of the hostel where the TV was and there were four other people in the room, two women sitting up front, close to the TV, excited about the Obama being inaugurated. And there was a dude at the back of the room cursing and swearing because the stock market was dropping.

    When the speech was done, we got to talking. The two women excited about the inauguration were Canadian. The guy at the back of the room angry at Obama because of the stock market (he’s literally being inaugurated, he hadn’t done anything yet) was American.

    Just felt like there was something wrong with that country then and just didn’t feel like going back there again. Then Trump came along and he did nothing but reinforce that feeling. Had some small hope they might be able to get past their greed, ignorance, and racism when Biden got in, but that just didn’t happen.

    Haven’t gone there in 16 years, and sure as hell not going there now.