Russia has been bombarded in the biggest Ukrainian drone attack of the war, Moscow officials have said, on the same day as crunch talks are set to be held between Kyiv and the United States.
The Russian Defence Ministry said air defences shot down 337 Ukrainian drones over 10 Russian regions overnight, a record high, as Ukraine hit back at a series of brutal recent attacks launched by Moscow.
At least one Russian civilian has been killed and several injured, with dramatic footage showing fires raging from the exploding drones including in high rise residential buildings near Moscow.
It’s sad but you can’t expect attacked countries to not fight back.
They committed a war crime. Take a moment to look at the photo gallery, they bombed civilian cars, civilian apartment complex, single family housing.
And they are doing this on the eve of a potential ceasefire. This is not “sad”, it’s malicious and counterproductive. This kind of attack does nothing to improve the balance of power of Ukraine, it’s essentially state terrorism.
It’s so sad, if only Russia could’ve averted this tragedy somehow.
If only the west hadn’t provoked the whole conflict.
Provoked: How Washington Started the New Cold War with Russia and the Catastrophe in Ukraine
Ah yes, it was the West that made Russia attack. I wish Russia was a sovereign country that didn’t have to obey what West (apparently) tell it to do.
They are a sovereign country, a sovereign country that stated red lines in regard to their territorial security. The West knowingly provoked Russia by posturing that Ukraine would join NATO.
This is exactly the same reaction the US would have if the scenario was flipped (as stated in the Monroe doctrine). It is hugely hypocritical of the previous administration to pretend that Russia is in the wrong for wanting to secure their border.
Ah yes they needed to invade an another country because they felt threatened. Well I’m glad there was a justified reason for it at least.
This is exactly the same reaction the US would have if the scenario was flipped
And would you have been fine with it then, as you seem to be now? Because I sure as hell wouldn’t (and haven’t) been.
Finland’s territorial security has been constantly threatened by Soviet Union and Russia since WW2. Does that give us the right to bomb their civilians, or do only big countries with nuclear weapons get to use this logic?
Otoh, I totally get that in 2025 only big countries with nuclear weapons have any say in geopolitics. It didn’t use to be that way and I wonder greatly about people who think this is a good change.
Being a sovereign country doesn’t give you the right to decide what other sovereign countries do. Believing you are entitled to does make you an imperialist. This applies both to the US and Russia.
Yes, the Catholic Church “provoked” Henry VIII to murder his wives as well. Or maybe when you choose to murder people you are still accountable for murdering them.
It’s like saying “I told my ex who still lives in the neighborhood they can’t be friends with any new men, and she did it anyways so I blame it on the men for provoking me and I went over to her house and tried to strangle her to death.”
“I’m innocent, it was the new friends that made me do it”
you see? this is why we didn’t want redditors to come to lemmy to begin with. you brought the fucking astroturf campaign with you.
They tried, for 8 years. The West collectively said “nah, fuck you and your peace deals” and continued to bomb Donbas.
Now y’all are celebrating war crimes with the one hand and clutching your pearls that Russia hits back at military equipment fired from within hospitals (another fucking war crime from Ukraine) with the other.
I hope the upcoming burst of the bubble puts the west down for real, I can’t believe people like you are voting for the people in charge of the biggest military apparatus in human history.
Russia tried not attacking Ukraine for 8 years and then just had to do it? That does sound very Russian.
Friend, you’re clutching your pearls over a single attack but Russian invasion has caused tens of thousands of civilian deaths. Give me a break.
I know “no u” is the end all be all of lib argument, but I’m not clutching my pearls at anything. Russia is winning and Ukraine needs this peace deal, and politicians there are gonna have to acknowledge what the population wants soon or mass desertions are gonna be the least of their problems.
I’m sure there’s an argument relevant to the topic in your comment somewhere, I’m just not seeing it.
This is a Brazen Lie. There would have been no war in Donbas, no bombing and no death if Russia itself didn’t send its troops in there. The Russians, including Dugin and Girkin, have openly said this. Even Putin mentioned in an interview invading donbas in 2014
There would have been a war because the DNR and LNR seceded, and Ukraine refused to negotiate in good faith, choosing to bomb civilians into an unconditional surrender.
We will all win! Because we will have a job — they don’t have one. We will have pensions — they don’t have them. We will have the support of people — children and pensioners — but they do not have it. Our children will go to schools and kindergartens, and they will have them sitting in basements. Because they don’t know how to do anything! That’s how, that’s how we’re going to win this war.
Poroshenko said this in 2014.
If you’re worried about Ukrainians striking civilian infrastructure, i have some bad news about what Russia has been doing.
This must be that “whataboutism” I keep hearing liberals crying about
At least use an archive link if you’re going to share the Daily Mail
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One of them, yup. There’s a real “my empire’s better than your empire” energy here, and a tendency to totally forget (or deliberately ignore?) the working class to defend said empire. I don’t block ml personally but I block a lot of people in it.
I don’t really think that’s accurate. Have you actually tried to have a conversation with Marxists regarding the Russo-Ukrainian war, or the Russian Federation or NATO in general? I think you’ll be better able to make sense of Marxist takes, especially if you presumably haven’t read Lenin.
Wow. I’m kinda shocked by this news. Ukraine on the offensive? Why?
They need to have some success to put onto the table and show USA and EU they still can win. Regardless of this “win” being basically terror attack, USA and EU loves them anyway.
Negotiations in Saudi right now. Ukraine probably wants to show they are willing to bomb cities just like Russia if they do not get a good deal.
How come when Russia drops bombs it’s a military target (or something meters away from one) but when Ukraine drops bombs it’s always schools, apartments, and shopping malls?
Russia has dropped many bombs on civilians building and infrastructure.
https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/ again, meters away from military targets.
Amnesty has to throw its “both sides” shit into it as always but even a propaganda arm of the UK government admits Ukraine has been deliberately firing weapons dangerously close and often within civilian infrastructure. That “hamas uses human shields” nonsense that nobody ever provides proof of? There’s ample proof when it comes to Ukraine (and Israel), it’s the CIA playbook.
At 22 out of 29 schools visited, Amnesty International researchers either found soldiers using the premises or found evidence of current or prior military activity – including the presence of military fatigues, discarded munitions, army ration packets and military vehicles.
Maybe read your own article?
“…In certain other locations in which Amnesty International concluded that Russia had committed war crimes, including in some areas of the city of Kharkiv, the organization did not find evidence of Ukrainian forces located in the civilian areas unlawfully targeted by the Russian military.”
Using your same source (therefore I assume you accept it as credible) here are a few articles from this year showing Russia as the problem in the conflict, including one specifically calling out the Russia war crimes against civilians (you should particularly pay attention to the link to the report about “deadly Russian airstrikes on civilians”)
https://www.amnesty.org/en/petition/end-war-crimes-against-ukrainians-in-russian-captivity/
Maybe understand that Amnesty always has been a tool for manufacturing consent for western intervention, and if they’re criticizing a western ally that means something is horribly wrong with them, but they’re gonna have to fling criticism at the other party any way they can as well.
I don’t use it because I consider it trustworthy in and of itself, but because you probably do. In the same way you’d probably use a CGTN source to say “even china admits it” or teleSUR to say “even Venezuela admits it” when criticizing either of them.
the same way you’d probably use a CGTN source to say “even china admits it” or teleSUR to say “even Venezuela admits it” when criticizing either of them.
Nah, it’s just China bad with infinite Zenz source loops.
I don’t use it because I consider it trustworthy in and of itself, but because you probably do
Right but the source you cited was literally saying the exact opposite of what you claimed.
What is that quote supposed to prove or disprove? No one is implying* that Russia has a perfect scorecard for respecting international treaties.
The bigger point of this article (that seems to go over your head) is that Ukraine also has a responsibility to prevent civilian casualties, which it has neglected regularly. Furthermore, the drone bombing act seems to have been a massive indiscriminate attack, looking at the images, there’s multiple nonsensical targets such as civilians dwelling and some civilian parking lots. Whyever would any serious military target those? All this does is escalate a bloody conflict that should’ve been diplomatically settled years ago.
Interesting, thank you for sharing.
Russia just killed six people, including two children in Donetsk yesterday.
(crickets…)
Didn’t Russia bomb a building with “children” painted in front of it once
bombing civilian targets yields bigger optics and fatigues the population
i don’t know that the split in strategy between the two belligerents is as plain as you’re implicating though
Please tell me you are being sarcastic.
If that’s not possible, please check news sources other than RT.
You are either a troll, a Russian bot, or completely obtuse.
Let’s not pretend as if anyone here can know the real answer to that. But… Kyiv has been attacked with terror attacks since the start of this war, so why not Moscow? Perhaps it might bring some sense to the russian people who are currently complete sheeps when it comes to their leadership.
Unfortunately(?) attacks against civilians rarely work in lowering morale.
Neo liberals: This is just Russian propaganda!!! We must continue giving more guns bombs tanks and military ordinance to the Ukraine to defend democracy which we don’y…. I mean definitely still do have here in the United states because of……. I mean DESPITE… Malignant Russian actors who perpetrated the DNC leaks 9 years ago and DEFINITELY NOT wall street corporate military and prison industry profiteers who own both political parties and collude to manipulate the American people and maintain their fascist neo-feudalistic state at all costs!!!
You write like a hallucinating LLM.
What?
Of course world news is filled with neo libs who think the solution to the issues is just to vote harder and that democracy in the usa wasn’t obviously compromised decades ago. Man you guys are so delulu.
When was it? I’m looking at Russian news and not seeing anything, they’re usually pretty eager to talk about drone attacks. I read about one on Nizhny Novgorod, IIRC it was early morning 11.03
👏 a well deserved clap back👏
Just like 9/11
Turns out imperialism is bad regardless of it being US or Russian
Did you respond to the wrong comment?
Nope.
9/11 is a direct response to US imperialism in the middle east and tied directly with our abandonment of the mujahideen following supporting them throughout the Soviet Afghan war.
Our abandonment before their government stabilized is responsible for the rise of the Taliban and the influence of Bin Laden.
Ukraine targeting civilian centers like this is exactly the same kind of clap back against imperialist greed for land and resources.
Imperialism and authoritarian behavior historically always meets bloody resistance; see also Hamas in Palestine.
