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🇨🇦 holdstrong ( @holdstrong@lemm.ee ) English15•2 days agoThe carbon tax was an excellent policy, but this was probably necessary to win the election. Here’s hoping the Liberals replace it with something functionally equivalent, like cap and trade.
Phoenixz ( @phoenixz@lemmy.ca ) 4•1 day agoI’m happy to see so many people being so reasonable and understanding of how politics works.
Too many idiots in the US let trump win just because Harris wasn’t hard enough against the genocide in Palestine even though she couldn’t had she wanted to and now we have Cheeto
veee ( @veeesix@lemmy.ca ) English37•3 days agoCarney kills consumer carbon tax in first move as prime minister
And with it PP’s entire campaign identity.
RapidCatLauncher ( @RapidCatLauncher@lemmy.ca ) English15•3 days agoThat’s probably why.
BlameThePeacock ( @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ) English27•3 days agoThis is disappointing
It’s even more disappointing that I would bet money that gas stations will not lower their prices by the same amount as the tax because of this. They’ll go down maybe 5 cents and claim it’s the savings.
The average family is going to lose money from dropping this policy, they were getting more from the rebate than they were spending on the tax.
Glide ( @Glide@lemmy.ca ) 10•3 days agoYou’re correct. But the carbon tax is so widely misunderstood and hated that continuing to push it is political suicide.
I begrudgingly respect the Liberals decision here, even though I strictly disagree with the outcome.
miss_demeanour ( @miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English9•3 days agoHow does anyone even know what the price is/was, is/was -supposed to be, should be, might be?
OminousOrange ( @OminousOrange@lemmy.ca ) 7•3 days agoAnyone could do a cursory search and find that the fuel charge rate is currently $0.1761/L for gasoline. They could also see, with this same search, what the price was, is supposed to be, should be, and might be.
miss_demeanour ( @miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com ) English9•3 days agoAnyone who drives at 8am knows that the price could be higher or lower at 805am.
Thanks for your insight.
BlameThePeacock ( @BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca ) English6•3 days agoYou could also look up the wholesale cost of gasoline, compare that the current advertised price to figure out what the specific gas stations normal markup is, then see if the wholesale price changes on the date the carbon tax is removed to find out if the gas station was taking an extra big cut.
Reannlegge ( @Reannlegge@lemmy.ca ) English7•3 days agoYou think the pumps will see a drop, as long as PP does not say anything about the carbon tax being dropped the gas stations will stay the same.
Yes people will find out that Carney did that on the news but PP will come up with some new nick name and people will forget.
Laser ( @Punchshark@lemmy.ca ) English10•3 days agoCANADA DOESN’T NEED A SMALL pp
yeehaw ( @cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ) 5•3 days agoI’m not gonna lie, this tax did nothing for me. It did not influence my purchasing decisions. I already hardly drive my vehicle, but when I need to get somewhere I don’t even have any other option than to take a vehicle.
I’m also certainly not going to heat my home any differently, so it is what it is and I just kept paying.
Jerkface (any/all) ( @jerkface@lemmy.ca ) English13•3 days agoWell, fuck. That’s income I could have really used. This negatively affects people living in poverty the most, and benefits the affluent the most. This better come paired with some kind of financial break for low income earners.
I feel like this signals that Carney is willing to cast aside his principles and throw uninvolved people under the bus so that he can meet his priority goals. Ie, getting ignorant swing voters on his side. This is a blatant campaign move that should have been an election promise, not a unilateral decision.
Reannlegge ( @Reannlegge@lemmy.ca ) English11•3 days agoHe is trying to keep PP from getting any raise in the polls.
KanadrAllegria ( @KanadrAllegria@lemmy.ca ) English2•3 days ago…
Are we still doing “phrasing”?
Jerkface (any/all) ( @jerkface@lemmy.ca ) English2•3 days agoI believe that’s what I said.
Lemmyoutofhere ( @Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca ) English9•3 days agoSadly, most people are idiots and don’t realise it benefits them.
prodigalsorcerer ( @prodigalsorcerer@lemmy.ca ) 3•2 days agoHis stated goal is to replace it with something similar but with better branding.
Consider that this effectively kills 90% of PP’s campaign rhetoric, and that if PP were to be elected, you’d lose the tax anyway without a replacement.
KanadrAllegria ( @KanadrAllegria@lemmy.ca ) English4•3 days agoI believe he did promise this before he was elected as head of the liberal party.
Edit: Yes he did
Jerkface (any/all) ( @jerkface@lemmy.ca ) English2•3 days agoNot sure I see that as consequential.
humanspiral ( @humanspiral@lemmy.ca ) 11•3 days agoCarbon tax and dividend is greatest tax in human history. Not meant to raise discretionary revenue. Not a pension scam subject to bankruptcy or payment reductions in future. Car rebates is not good policy, because its not car ownership that affects emissions, it is miles driven. Or lifestyle choices that don’t need cars/long driving.
The rise in diesel/home heating fuel was a direct result of Ukraine war. Carbon tax is divisive because all the parties love the war on Russia, and so no one addresses/d the real reason for the cost of living hikes.
Pyr_Pressure ( @Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ) 9•3 days agoYes I’m disappointed we had to cave to the conservatives but if that’s the price of avoiding a PP PM I guess I can live with it. I’m not planning on having kids so I just need to feel bad for the polar bears.
Yoga ( @Yoga@lemmy.ca ) English3•3 days agoCarbon tax and dividend is greatest tax in human history.
Someone call the Georgists in to land value tax this guy out of existence.
Tlaloc_Temporal ( @Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca ) 2•1 day agoHas a LVT ever been implemented?
Yoga ( @Yoga@lemmy.ca ) English2•1 day agoLmao NOPE but that won’t stop the Georgists
There have been some partial implementations though but I don’t think they’re notable enough to provide meaningful evidence.
puppinstuff ( @puppinstuff@lemmy.ca ) English3•2 days agoIt’s good this happens before the election. When gas prices don’t come down at all they might go “oh… maybe canceling this was a dumb idea after all”
Glide ( @Glide@lemmy.ca ) 10•3 days agoBut the CPC ads with red glows and ominous music keep telling me he’s “Carbon Tax Carney”!
ShaggyBlarney ( @ShaggyBlarney@lemmy.ca ) English4•3 days agoYa and he axed the tax…wait pp has no talking points now
Nemean_lion ( @Nemean_lion@lemmy.ca ) English6•3 days agoWell. That’s the nail in the coffin for pp and his ineptitude.
Good.
Randomgal ( @Randomgal@lemmy.ca ) 1•3 days agoAh, no wonder Alberta lovea him lmao.