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cross-posted from: https://europe.pub/post/7501
What European email services do you use?
Please recommend other interesting email services by your experience.
I have switched from Google’s Gmail to ProtonMail and kMail. I really like both, kMail (by Infomaniak) have very similar app interface to Gmail so you will get used to it very fast and also have big storage for free and very good offers for paid plans 👍🏼
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Fuck Proton and their Trumps-ass-kissing CEO though.
yes, one comment saying that republicans do one thing right means exactly what you wrote
“Needs client app” is a funny way of saying it “supports open protocols as first class citizens”.
Yeah, what’s up with that? IMAP, SMTP and CardDAV to good for some people or what?
Just a quick notice about proton here. While it is great, if you tend to forget your passwords be carefull beacuse you will lose all your mail history when you recover. I would reccomend something more casual for casual users.
If you use Proton and forget your passwords, it’s okay because the Proton CEO openly praised a US president who has a history of breaking privacy laws and is actively antagonizing allies. With that moral compass running Proton, your privacy and security might be compromised at a later date.
That second sentence could do with a disambiguating comma…
Oooh i see i will edit it and add comma
ProtonMail. Despite the boss likely being a conservative dogebag, their company is headquartered in Switzerland. That is the first big thing I check for my privacy and banking services. It is harder for a service to be poisoned by Yarvin’s Cabal if the service’s HQ is located in a democratic country, especially one famed for their privacy.
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Yes but the CEO publicly endorses Trump. I prefer Gmail over that mess.
- only web app
- needs client app
What’s up with that misleading information as if there’s something missing? This just means you can use any mail application you want with the standard mail protocols IMAP and POP3. If a mail provider is offering an app themselves that’s fine but that’s nothing a mail provider HAS to offer. What’s much more important is how they handle you data, how good they filter out spam, how big you mailbox can be, cost, sustainability etc. But the app is the least important thing.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Tutanota uses a proprietary protocol to communicate with email clients, so an app is needed. Perhaps “needs client app” means that.
That could be since I don’t know Tutanota. But an email provider who doesn’t support IMAP/SMTP sounds kinda weird to me. But mailbox.org doesn’t need their client. They support normal protocols: https://kb.mailbox.org/de/privat/e-mail/e-mail-konfiguration/
Also, Protonmail charges premium for their imap/pop bridge.
It’s not that they don’t support IMAP or SMTP. They do, but only sending or receiving external emails. All operations from the client go through internet in their proprietary protocol to their server, then industrial standard protocols with other parties.
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mailbox.org has a web app, so no need for a client app.
And Posteo also supports POP3, IMAP and SMTP, so you can use every mail client with support for it.Why is Kmail in there?
Kmail is a client: it can’t host.
the whole suit is called ksuite: https://ksuite.infomaniak.com/
they have an app to sync and it’s free (20G)
Thanks! I just signed up.
Been using Posteo since around 2015. They’re great.
Same. Posteo is fantastic.
https://mailfence.com/ Belgian, 1Gb
https://www.gmx.com/ German Restrictions: 50MB attachments. Require an alternate email to sign up.
I switched from gmail to gmx mail. I like it very much.
Which belongs to 1&1, which belongs to United Internet, which belongs to Ralph Dommermuth, who is one of the 300 richest people in the world. Also GMX often is the target of spam and phishing. And if you want to access the web login you have to go through a shitty news page. Still better than gmail, but there are far superior alternatives. Sincerely, a former web.de user (which is the same shit with a different name).
I don’t know what fishy websites you were on if spam and phishing was a problem for you. It wasn’t a problem for me at gmail, outlook or hotmail, so I doubt it will be a problem at gmx, also will not be using web login. Glad you found good email that suits you the best. Have a good day!
A lot of older people in Germany got their first email address with gmx or web.de (same servers, just different domains), so both of these platforms users are often targeted by spammers and scammers because of a possibly higher success rate. My FIL just last week almost lost control of his gmx and associated accounts. Though that was probably due to using the same password for multiple services, it is just more likely to happen with gmx than say posteo due to probabilities.
Spam also comes from the providers themselves, trying to push subscriptions to their premium services. If you want to access your inbox via browser and have an adblocker enabled you are forced to watch an ad.
If it works for you and if you use a separate password for gmx (or better yet, a password manager) and a different client, all good. I just think there are better options for people who are looking for alternatives right now.
It might not be for everyone but you could grab a domain + webspace for like 2€/month.
aaaand its blocked for spam.
yeah good luck getting through all the spam filtering, and dealing with spam.
I tried posteo and eclipso before settling on mailbox.org.
Coming from gmail.
Been using mailbox.org for a couple of years and I’m quite happy with it. Don’t know what “needs client app” is supposed to mean though. If you don’t want to use a mail client you can use the web interface. I’ve used maildroid on Android with it and when it was discontinued switched to Thunderbird, both work fine with mailbox.org.
There’s one tiny minor annoyance, they somehow automatically create a new “archive” folder for every year that the web interface uses when you hit the archive button but in your mail client you gotta change the preferences manually once a year. Don’t know if you can change but it’s such a minor inconvenience I never bothered to check.
I’ve been happy with mailbox.org for years, too, yeah.
My only complaint is their WebDav experience is…just not very good. It’s probably that I wanted a sync client and not a webdav client. But it wasn’t quite standard (iirc) so getting everything configured was a pain…
Yeah I’m using it for mail only but I remember when I first got the account it told me to install some weird extra app to sync tasks and calendars. Never bothered to and kept using Google unfortunately, maybe it’s time to look into it.
If you’re talking about Davx5, it actually works great for calendar/contact sync and is (mostly?) OSS. At least, I know I can install it from f-droid…
Davx5 yep. Its very easy. I can’t be arsed to search for it but if you look through my comment history you’ll see a comment I made in the last couple if weeks on how to set it up. Its incredibly easy.
